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Old Support Topics - [SOLVED] Quote First Post
maxweb [ Wed 29 Aug, 2012 19:56 ]
Post subject: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
Hi, sorry for my english, i'm italian.
I want to remove the possibilty to quote the first post of every topic from everyone with icy 2.0.
Is it possible?
Mighty Gorgon [ Sun 09 Sep, 2012 19:56 ]
Post subject: Re: Quote First Post
It's quite tricky, because you need to remove the buttons and even add a check over posting.php to disallow quoting by manually entering the url.
You can't prevent users to manually copying the text either... unless it is highly formatted they'll be able to quote anyway.
First of all you should create a new check in viewtopic to verify if the post is the first within the topic and then add the condition check in template where QUOTING buttons are.
maxweb [ Mon 10 Sep, 2012 17:17 ]
Post subject: Re: Quote First Post
It's quite tricky, because you need to remove the buttons and even add a check over posting.php to disallow quoting by manually entering the url.
You can't prevent users to manually copying the text either... unless it is highly formatted they'll be able to quote anyway.
First of all you should create a new check in viewtopic to verify if the post is the first within the topic and then add the condition check in template where QUOTING buttons are.
thanks a lot for your reply but i don't have the capacity to create this mod, sorry. just wait if someone do it...
Mighty Gorgon [ Sat 15 Sep, 2012 11:28 ]
Post subject: Re: Quote First Post
For 1.000.000 euros I can do it right now!
I'm kidding... unfortunately it cannot be done properly in 5 minutes, it will require roughly 60/90 minutes for a skilled coder knowing the basics of Icy Phoenix. I don't have such a time right now... and I don't think this feature is so useful after all, since users may copy and paste anyway the text...
maxweb [ Sat 15 Sep, 2012 19:54 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
For 1.000.000 euros I can do it right now!
I'm kidding... unfortunately it cannot be done properly in 5 minutes, it will require roughly 60/90 minutes for a skilled coder knowing the basics of Icy Phoenix. I don't have such a time right now... and I don't think this feature is so useful after all, since users may copy and paste anyway the text...
i have fixed with
this metod, is correct solution?
Joshua203 [ Sat 15 Sep, 2012 21:28 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
I'm sorry but don't you think it is a little strange to ask a question in 2 sites (wasting coder time by doing this) and then even ask on the other site if the advice given is correct?
I'm stupid enough to answer ... It will probably remove the quote button from the first post in a thread! nothing more, nothing less.
Please, next time, ask help in one place and give it some time before you post at one of our other sites.
maxweb [ Sun 16 Sep, 2012 10:27 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
without making any controversy but I thought that the subject might be of interest to users of the. com rather than just users. it
Joshua203 [ Sun 16 Sep, 2012 12:30 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
Well if that's what you wanted to do then it would have been great but in this case please..
..post your question in one site
..wait for the right solution
..in case of doubt, test it or wait for more replies? (I can imagine you asking if there is a better solution but not "is this correct?")
..open a topic here and quote the solution ( try to include credits to the helping member )
I hope you understand what I mean Maxweb
Mighty Gorgon [ Sun 16 Sep, 2012 13:19 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
The solution proposed only removes the buttons, but it doesn't fix the whole issue, because one can write the address in the address bar and bypass your trick.
Example:
http://www.icyphoenix.com/posting.p...&t=8656&p=56868
maxweb [ Sun 16 Sep, 2012 20:27 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
@joshua
understood..
@mighty gorgon
it is true that the problem is avoidable as you said, but surely already so many people fail to quote the first post.
if I were able to make the change you say you would have already done, unfortunately I just have to wait for someone maybe able in order
for the moment I can only thank what has been done
mort [ Sun 16 Sep, 2012 23:58 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
What a waste of time you are going through.
For example you could change the php script to swap the quote string and button with a reply string and button - just for a trick.
But what if I highlight just (or all) the text I want from the first post and copy/paste it to the next post etc and add the "Quote"
(Which is what I do most of the time)
Like this:
Quote:
unfortunately I just have to wait for someone maybe able in order
for the moment I can only thank what has been done
Or this:
ADD THE USER NAME YOU WANT TO wrote:
unfortunately I just have to wait for someone maybe able in order
for the moment I can only thank what has been done
maxweb [ Mon 17 Sep, 2012 08:31 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
@mort
i don't understand what you say but the problem for me is solved partially because when the button is visible users can quote first post can copy url from img and all tag in the post
without button this they can not do so easily ...
mort [ Mon 17 Sep, 2012 09:16 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
This is your last post that I simply highlighted - copied - and pasted it here.
@mort
i don't understand what you say but the problem for me is solved partially because when the button is visible users can quote first post can copy url from img and all tag in the post
without button this they can not do so easily ...
All I need to do is add the "Quote" wrappers to it to make it a quote.
Like this:
Quote:
@mort
i don't understand what you say but the problem for me is solved partially because when the button is visible users can quote first post can copy url from img and all tag in the post
without button this they can not do so easily ...
So no matter what you do - If people want to quote the first post, they only have to copy the post and add the "Quote" wrappers.
That's why I said that no matter what you come up with - people can still quote the first post even though you may make it just a little bit harder.
maxweb wrote:
Hi, sorry for my english, i'm italian.
I want to remove the possibility to quote the first post of every topic from everyone with icy 2.0.
Is it possible?
You didn't say anything here about quoting img or url tags - just not quoting the first post.
As for disabling images in quotes, I thought that IP already had that option -
Or was that some other forum software I used to know. Either way it wouldn't be too difficult to add that to IP if it doesn't.
maxweb [ Mon 17 Sep, 2012 11:04 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
thanks for your explanation mort....
appearance only in case there was someone who wanted to challenge themselves in this thing, and wanted a "guinea pig" I am ready to give my contribution to what are my chances, thanks
mort [ Mon 17 Sep, 2012 11:17 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
One of the biggest problems is - People don't bother to use the "Reply" button.
And imho reply etc should be directly under the posts, not at the bottom of the page because the quote button becomes too convenient.
Take note MG!
Joshua203 [ Mon 17 Sep, 2012 13:39 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
I think the biggest problem is that lots of users don't even bother to read the full thread before posting (or even quickly view it).
Having the post button under every post would even make it worse imho, relocating it a little higher could be better (immediately under the thread for example) but that could become a whole different discussion with many different opinions.
Not being able to easily quote
only parts of the first post fully formatted (bbcodes included or most of them) is very user unfriendly too (at least I think so), unless you could still do it from posting history.
IcyPhoenix already misses the feature to be able to highlight part of a post in posting history and quote only that part with a push on the quote button (something I've been told is very hard to achieve after suggesting such a feature)
In short ..
The code suggested by TopoMotoV3X at our Italian site has upsides and downsides but personally I would not expand on it making it block even more... but that's just my opinion
Joshua203 [ Mon 17 Sep, 2012 14:03 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
Ooooh and for anyone wondering what suggested code we are talking about or wanting to use this "feature":
TopoMotoV3X wrote:
Find in root/viewtopic.php the
SECOND occurrence of:
// Mighty Gorgon - POSTS LIKES - BEGIN
Add before:
//----------------- Hide Quote Image ---------------- //
if ($single_post_number > 1)
{
$quote_img = '<a href="' . $quote_url . '"><img src="' . $images['icon_quote'] . '" alt="' . $lang['Reply_with_quote'] . '" title="' . $lang['Reply_with_quote'] . '" /></a>';
$quote = '<a href="' . $quote_url . '">' . $lang['Reply_with_quote'] . '</a>';
}
else
{
$quote_img = false ;
}
//-------------- End Hide Quote Image ---------------- //
*Note: If I made a mistake translating this please, correct me, I'm not Italian
mort [ Tue 18 Sep, 2012 03:16 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
What about the "Quick Quote" button?
icon_post_quick_quote.gif
Joshua203 [ Tue 18 Sep, 2012 11:03 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
Hehehehe ..we pretend it doesn't exist?
Seriously ...it should do the same as the other one imho
maxweb [ Tue 18 Sep, 2012 18:37 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
you are very nice.
however, I think this type of change reduces many people to copy too easily work done with so much effort
it is obvious that this change is not a certainty but a small starting point
TopoMotoV3X [ Wed 19 Sep, 2012 13:26 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
I have been asked how to hide the "Quote" from the first post of each thread, if he had asked me as to prohibit [quote] tag, I would have told him to look for an alternative..
you could also disable the response mode by pressing "quote", but it would be possible to copy the same ... so maybe it is better and also faster to do as I have done.
Joshua203 [ Wed 19 Sep, 2012 13:50 ]
Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Quote First Post
You've done a great job TopoMotoV3X
We were just discussing up- and down-sides and maybe even additions.
I even think Maxbweb's request is not a bad idea