https://www.icyphoenix.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=7034
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borbo
Mon 15 Mar, 2010 09:18

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Hello a client of mine needs to change from IP to joomla's fireboard or Kunena ( something like that  :( ) and because i've installed IP for him i am the responsible to reinstall everything( forum and users) in the new board...

I believe that moving to phpBB3 and using a bridge for joomla is the best way(from what i've read so far....)

What do you think? Any other suggestions?

How can i move from IP to phpBB3 ?Is there any automated procedure?

Thank you
Regards


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spydie
Mon 15 Mar, 2010 19:36

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And why don´t you modify that bridge and use Joomla-Icy ??

Is´nt that difficult.

Been thinking of doing it myself, but due to work , i´ve got no time to do it.

The best bridge to use IMHO is RokBridge for Joomla 1.5

Converting that bridge, would save you a lot of headaches moving users and posts


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borbo
Mon 15 Mar, 2010 22:52

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Thanks a lot spydie i'll give it a shot...


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TheSteffen
Tue 16 Mar, 2010 17:32

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For one year I have done the bridge and it was working with IP 1.2.20.47 and Joomla  1.5 

I used this one:
http://www.jfusion.org/index.php/downloads/category/1-latest_release


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Pedigree
Sat 20 Mar, 2010 08:33

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Hi guys,

I'm in the same boat as OP, but I would prefer to convert to PhpBB3 - nothing against Icy Phoenix as it has helped me for quite some time.

I have read a few threads here and on http://www.phpbb.com about converting Icy Phoenix to PhpBB3. The Icy Phoenix database can first be converted to PhpBB2 by cleaning tables. There are two known ways to do this, manually or by running the script found [url=http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=293867]here. 

The issue a mate and I have found is that Icy Phoenix has since been updated and the clean_tables.php script doesn't appear to run. We get a blank screen. This may have something to do with extension.inc no longer existing. We've added it back in, modified it to remove 'hacking attempt' but the script still does not run.

The clean_tables.php script includes the following.
[code]
define('IN_PHPBB', true);
$phpbb_root_path = './../';
include($phpbb_root_path . 'extension.inc');
include($phpbb_root_path . 'common.' . $phpEx);
[/code]

With my limited php knowledge I am unable to get this script running. If anyone could assist here, it would be greatly appreciated.


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Sarakin
Sat 20 Mar, 2010 12:16

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I agree about there's a big risk moving into the latest Icy version without a "backward-march" script. Btw, one of the things which make me bet for Icy *.0.27c was I had the clean tables script, so I could move to any board I wanted easily (previous phpbb2 move), but now it seems that Icy doesn't upgrade from phpbb3 and even can't take back to it or perhaps the old phpbb2, so I'm wondering if our community should keep sticking to it or not, and it's a pity because I really liked Icy  :cry:


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Ripley
Sat 20 Mar, 2010 13:04

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It is possible, we moved to the latest ip from phpbb3-smf-phpbb2-ip, I don't know details, but  it is possible for sure. All users and post saved.


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Sarakin
Sat 20 Mar, 2010 14:50

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[quote user="Ripley" post="48333"]It is possible, we moved to the latest ip from phpbb3-smf-phpbb2-ip, I don't know details, but  it is possible for sure. All users and post saved.[/quote]
No, you didn't. You moved phpBB3 to smf earlier, and from this one to phpbb2 in order to upgrade to Icy, so the answer is "no, there is no way to upgrade phpBB3 to IP directly using the Icy installer". Anyway, it's good to know it's possible to move it through smf scripts, but the main point would be to make the same thing backwards, I mean, IP3 -> smf or any phpBB.


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Pedigree
Sat 20 Mar, 2010 15:45

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Thanks for the posts guys, but we are talking about converting IP > PhpBB2 > PhpBB3.

The script I referred to is a PhpBB2 database cleaning script that should clean the IP database, removing IP tables, and therefore ending up with a PhpBB2 db. 

Sarakin has a point, I'd also prefer the flexibility to move between the boards that suits my community. My mate and I would not like to have to convert our db manually.
Can any developers out there provide me with further support?


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BIG BOSS
Sat 20 Mar, 2010 16:57

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I also need to convert to phpBB 3.


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TheSteffen
Sun 21 Mar, 2010 11:32

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If you want to convert from IP to phpBB3 you can follow this steps:

[url=http://www.icyphoenix.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3348]CONVERSION - How To Convert Icy Phoenix To phpBB 3

But for sure you will lose some informations.

I haven't test it, but maybe this should also help you to convert BBCodes
http://www.icyphoenix.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1948


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Sarakin
Sun 21 Mar, 2010 13:08

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[quote user="TheSteffen" post="48341"]If you want to convert from IP to phpBB3 you can follow this steps:

[url=http://www.icyphoenix.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3348]CONVERSION - How To Convert Icy Phoenix To phpBB 3

But for sure you will lose some informations.

I haven't test it, but maybe this should also help you to convert BBCodes
http://www.icyphoenix.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1948[/quote]
[b]First[/b] - I guess we don't care if we lose some info like topics ratings or any else which came from MOD's, the point is to have a script which converts Icy in a commun forum board like phpBBX in order to migrate to another one in case of need.
[b]Second[/b] - Have you tried to do what that link says? It seems it talks about Icy 0.2X -> phpBB, not 0.3X ->phpBB


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TheSteffen
Sun 21 Mar, 2010 22:34

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[quote user="Sarakin" post="48345"][b]Second[/b] - Have you tried to do what that link says? It seems it talks about Icy 0.2X -> phpBB, not 0.3X ->phpBB[/quote]
No, I have not test it, because I like IP  :mricy:


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Sarakin
Mon 22 Mar, 2010 01:08

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Me too  :wink: but a good soft like Icy should have a backward script to another common soft (as it had with 0.27 version) in order to make users sure in case any time they saw theirselves forced to move due to security reasons. 

For example, recently my IP 0.27 board was attacked by some "PDF virus" and now I fear IP 0.3a might be attacked successfully too, maybe not now, but maybe so in sometime has passed. So, I'd like to be sure that if IP 0.3a doesn't make my board secure in the future, I had some script in order to move it easily to another soft.


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Pedigree
Tue 23 Mar, 2010 02:14

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Please help us guys. 

I understand that you are all very busy, but your help would be very much appreciated.


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Lopalong
Wed 24 Mar, 2010 11:08

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[quote user="borbo" post="48295"]
How can i move from IP to phpBB3 ?Is there any automated procedure?

Thank you
Regards[/quote]

Is this a real question ?  :shock: 

Does phpBB3 offer "how to switch to OTHER" forum software ?
Does MyBB, SMF, IPB, or V-Bulletin offer on how to switch to IP, IPB, phpBB3 or any other forum whatever ?  :shock:

NO! They only provide "conversions" FROM something else to their own software! :P

Still, one could be forgiven for asking such a stupid question, while MG is apparently still undecided whether or not Icy Phoenix has both the credibility and the guts to stand on its own merits, and drop all association with, and stop supporting phpBB3 on what SHOULD be predominately an ICY PHOENIX site.

[b]Your question really belongs at phpBB.com [/b] :roll:


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Sarakin
Wed 24 Mar, 2010 11:26

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I don't want to make any sort of soap opera, but this is not a stupid question since Icy phoenix is some kind of phpBB2 and 3 hybrid. In fact, I remember MG said one day something about preparing this new Icy 0.3x to be migrated to phpBB3 the same way the 0.2x version did to phpBB2. We only want to be sure that if we got some troubles in the future we won't lose everything due to have no knowlege of MySQL.


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BIG BOSS
Wed 24 Mar, 2010 15:01

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[quote user="Lopalong" post="48378"][quote user="borbo" post="48295"]
How can i move from IP to phpBB3 ?Is there any automated procedure?

Thank you
Regards[/quote]

Is this a real question ?  :shock: 

Does phpBB3 offer "how to switch to OTHER" forum software ?
Does MyBB, SMF, IPB, or V-Bulletin offer on how to switch to IP, IPB, phpBB3 or any other forum whatever ?  :shock:

NO! They only provide "conversions" FROM something else to their own software! :P

Still, one could be forgiven for asking such a stupid question, while MG is apparently still undecided whether or not Icy Phoenix has both the credibility and the guts to stand on its own merits, and drop all association with, and stop supporting phpBB3 on what SHOULD be predominately an ICY PHOENIX site.

[b]Your question really belongs at phpBB.com [/b] :roll:[/quote]

I have to be totally honest here and drop the hammer!

I came to Icyphoenix looking for a better BB system and what I have found is something that looks really nice but at the end it is very difficult to maintain as an end user. I have no knowledge about MySQL and my PHP knowledge is very limited. Do you want to call me stupid again?

Everytime I updated to a newer version of IP I found myself in trouble, having 404 errors, blank pages, and parse errors, even now, after I lost all info on database because it got corrupted on an attempt to upgrade to the last version (got corrupted using the DB Backup script withing IP) I had to perform clean installation and still had problems with 500 errors!

Just recently I performed a DB maintanence routing from ACP and ended up with another parse error from functions_calendar.php, I opened a topic asking for help and NO ONE had the courtesy to even say "I'm sorry, try this or that"

I downloaded the Black Pearl themes and the Spanish pack for it... I had to rename all buttons in the Spanish pack 'cause they did not work. For two years or so, I have been on a roller coaster with IP and have come to a point where I can no longer afford to keep using it, hence the STUPID question if there is a script to revert back to phpBB2 to safely go to whatever BB system I want without having to lose all information again.

I am really glad you are so happy about IP, but I am not that happy about it and for what I read I'm not the only one who feels this way. 

All I want to do is move on to another system. Is that a crime?

I know my head is probably going to roll on this one and if that happens I'm ok with it.  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


And one more thing:

When we, the stupid ones, come to this site looking for help and asking nicely about how to fix or do something to the more experienced users it is very frustrating to find this kind of answers (look at the shoutbox):

 [img]http://www.icyphoenix.com/files/images/3679/ip.jpg[/img] 

We know support here is free and out of the good heart of those who help, but Mr. Lopalong seems to be someone not worthy of being part of the staff as he is not considerate with the rest of us mortals.


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Mighty Gorgon
Thu 25 Mar, 2010 12:52

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Please guys do not flame.

Everyone is free to use the platform or php package he prefers. We are not being payed to mantain Icy Phoenix, and we love open source, so there is no competition towards phpBB. I have always loved phpBB community and I'm still an active contributor to the project (even if recently I have only released styles for phpBB).

The reason why I don't provide automated convertors from Icy Phoenix to phpBB is that I really don't have the time to develop them. I don't have any automated tool to convert Icy Phoenix back to phpBB 2 or phpBB 3, otherwise I would have shared it.

Conversion is not an easy task because it requires to be aware of the target DB structure. Plus Icy Phoenix differs from the way phpBB 3 process posts, and that would require a special conversion (post by post) to add back bbcode uid or to re-parse special chars (this is just an example).

Currently I'm deeply involved in re-coding the project for UTF-8 support and some other security improvements (one of the latest commits shows that I have edited something like 70.000 lines of code in a month https://www.ohloh.net/p/icyphoenix/commits/69972944... ), and I really don't have time for supporting users as well. I can understand that some users may get frustrated for this reason, so I agree that users who needs help should move to another (better supported) platform like phpBB 3 or vBulletin.

I'm not forcing anyone to keep using Icy Phoenix, but keep in mind that I'm doing all this for free (I have also re-invested some of the few donations received to improve the package) and I cannot offer the same standards some other project may offer.

I believe that best way to get a converter is asking @ phpbb.com which has a great user base, you may find there someone which is willing to help.

I will try to code an automated phpBB 3 to Icy Phoenix conversion for next release, but I won't promise that, and almost for sure I will not provide a way back (again, because lacking of time).


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BIG BOSS
Thu 25 Mar, 2010 14:55

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MG,

I appreciate your response. There are only a handfull of people like you who are willing to dedicate time to produce things like Icy Phoenix. My hat is off for you!

I apologize for my previous post but lopalong calling us stupid was uncalled for. Anyways, I have been to phpBB forums trying to get help about going from IP to it without luck.

I had to disable the calendar row in forums in order to prevent the parse error again.

Everything seems to be working fine for the time being. I just hope not to encounter any more bumps on the road.

 :oops:


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Pedigree
Sun 28 Mar, 2010 01:13

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[quote user="Lopalong" post="48378"][quote user="borbo" post="48295"]
How can i move from IP to phpBB3 ?Is there any automated procedure?

Thank you
Regards[/quote]

Is this a real question ?  :shock: 

Does phpBB3 offer "how to switch to OTHER" forum software ?
Does MyBB, SMF, IPB, or V-Bulletin offer on how to switch to IP, IPB, phpBB3 or any other forum whatever ?  :shock:

NO! They only provide "conversions" FROM something else to their own software! :P

Still, one could be forgiven for asking such a stupid question, while MG is apparently still undecided whether or not Icy Phoenix has both the credibility and the guts to stand on its own merits, and drop all association with, and stop supporting phpBB3 on what SHOULD be predominately an ICY PHOENIX site.

[b]Your question really belongs at phpBB.com [/b] :roll:[/quote]

We ask this as a part of the php board community and purely requesting support.

 [quote user="BIG BOSS" post="48443"]MG,

I appreciate your response. There are only a handfull of people like you who are willing to dedicate time to produce things like Icy Phoenix. My hat is off for you!

I apologize for my previous post but lopalong calling us stupid was uncalled for. Anyways, I have been to phpBB forums trying to get help about going from IP to it without luck.

I had to disable the calendar row in forums in order to prevent the parse error again.

Everything seems to be working fine for the time being. I just hope not to encounter any more bumps on the road.

 :oops:[/quote]

Conversion topic is currently [url=http://www.icyphoenix.com/viewtopic.php?t=7034&p=48330#p48330]here - still pending a reply.


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Mighty Gorgon
Fri 02 Apr, 2010 09:41

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If have some basic knowledge about Icy Phoenix and phpBB 3 works I can provide you a couple of files which may help in the conversion, but as I told [u]these files are not automated[/u] and a lot of manual work could be needed depending on how big is your db and user base. Don't forget that you will also need do resend all passwords because old passwords system is not compatible with phpBB 3.

The new version of Icy Phoenix which I'm working on will be much more easier to be updated to phpBB 3... still BBCodes will not work, but at least passwords, users and forums should be easily ported.

[quote user="BIG BOSS" post="48443"]MG,

I appreciate your response. There are only a handfull of people like you who are willing to dedicate time to produce things like Icy Phoenix. My hat is off for you!

I apologize for my previous post but lopalong calling us stupid was uncalled for. Anyways, I have been to phpBB forums trying to get help about going from IP to it without luck.

I had to disable the calendar row in forums in order to prevent the parse error again.

Everything seems to be working fine for the time being. I just hope not to encounter any more bumps on the road.

 :oops:[/quote]


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Mighty Gorgon
Fri 02 Apr, 2010 09:56

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I have just edited this file so should at least open in Icy Phoenix... but it will not clean correctly Icy Phoenix 1.3 (I guess it should fix correctly Icy Phoenix 1.2), that means that you need to manually edit the code and run SQL statements to properly fix things...

So do whatever you like with this file... do it at your own risk and remember that I will not support it... :wink:


