Icy Phoenix

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Please feel free to make suggestions and report any bugs.

Your themes have one form error and numerous warnings for missing div's tr's and tables etc.

May not sound like much, but if and when one goes to add mods or other markup to the themes, the misconfiguration is more than likely to create unwanted problems.

I also don't understand why you needed to rename files, or include the default.cfg in your themes as the latter removes the global attribute of the default.cfg, and all .cfg additions and changes if necessary could have been added or included into the style.cfg.

You also need to re-work the cms blocks to be compatible with the default layout of IP themes, rather than suggest that advert blocks be compromised - Because that's what Icy Phoenix is all about.


Edit: Damn 24 hr restriction! :shock:

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elpulgas wrote: [View Post]

Yeah there are so many possible resolutions it's easy to forget about a percentage of the users :P I just remembered because one of my friends has one :D

There is absolutely no difference between a monitor and a TV irrespective of its size, resolution or whether it is progressive or interlaced.

The screen only mimics the digital input that the markup provides. :P

The biggest problem is that people add "fixed width" in amongst "variable width" when creating themes or any other html markup.

Consider - If it's fluid width then use %'s, if not then use fixed px, as combing the both does create the problems you highlighted.

In other words - It's the programmer - not the monitor.

Hell! I use a 40 inch "TV" at times on unreal resolutions, and if it "Breaks" - It's usually not the "TV's" problem. ;)

Hi Lopalong!

You got me there LOL. Since I've been editing the template to be as tableless as posible many files still have table tags that are made for tables that don't exist anymore. That will take quite a while to fix but you're right, it must be done. I also get the form error when validating but I haven't looked where it is and thus not fixed it. I also know the ads must be compatible and I've been working on it. really.

Why did I copy the cfg? Don't know it was just new to me and decided to copy all important things to a new folder :oops:

Lopalong wrote: [View Post]

In other words - It's the programmer - not the monitor.

I know, I never said otherwise, I just pointed out you have to keep that in mind.

OK so I still have much to repair (also the black theme has lots of white remainings).

Thank you for the advise Lopalong :mrgreen: I think you're the first one to see those errors (or at least the first one to tell me)


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I need help with this:

Here is an error I get at the validator, which is repeatet for every attribute in the marquee. What is the simplest solution? Change the document type? Thanks

wow very nice style yujuuu a probar!!

elpulgas wrote: [View Post]

I need help with this:

Here is an error I get at the validator, which is repeatet for every attribute in the marquee. What is the simplest solution? Change the document type? Thanks

Attribute "id" exists, but can not be used for this element.

<marquee id="recent_topics" behavior="scroll" direction="up" height="200" scroll

You wont get it to validate because it's not recognised as legitimate WC3 markup.

h**p://***.htmlref.com/reference/appa/tag_marquee.htm

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This is primarily a Microsoft-specific element, although a few other browsers, notably MSNTV and later Netscape and Mozilla versions, support it to some degree.

And you'll get some other things that enhance IP script but don't validate either. ;)

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Table-less, Mmmm!

You're going to find that one hell of a workout with nested templates etc, and not only that, mods and extras would have to re-written just for one theme, and certainly not something I would be interested in doing.

Consider also that some .php core files contain markup as well.

But! if it keeps you happy - Keep doing it. :mricy:

It's a shame that it won`t validate but what can I do? It's very useful and looks good so I'll leave it there. Thank you for the information.

Look, I fixed all other errors:
Index validation (invalid)
Forum validation (valid =])

Only thing you can do is use a JavaScript to emulate marquee.

You can use JQuery, or Scriptaculous or MooFX... there are many (most of them already included in Icy Phoenix)... I think also HighSlide is capable of some sort of marquee.

You just need to choose one and apply the required code.

I will also convert the current scrolling blocks one day... but since MARQUEE (even if not valid W3C) is working with all main browsers it's not on my priority list. I just avoid using marquee on my sites. :wink:

(And this is the reason I have created a flash block!)

I agree with leaving it as it is since it works with many browsers. Even though it doesn't validate I think it's better than JavaScript or Flash.

Look my problem:

Question.

Have you installed both Knekz themes???

spydie wrote: [View Post]

Question.

Have you installed both Knekz themes???

Yes.

That´s why.

ElPulgas said strictly not to install both themes together. or one or the other.

I think he explained that in Knekz dark. They are not compatible with each other.

Uninstall both themes .

Delet the one you don´t want to use from your site and install the other one new.

Tell me what happens

Hello,

I have a problem with this template. This template do not run with internet explorer 6. The problem is that a lot of user still use ie6 and this is a big problem in this moment because this meaning a users lost.

Your template is very, very good and i am very interesting to use in my forum, but this problem stop me.

Could you make compatible with internet explorer 6?

Thanks you for this template!!!!

Tell your users to upgarde IE

As IE 6 has no suport anymore, it´s dead

spydie wrote: [View Post]

Tell your users to upgarde IE

As IE 6 has no suport anymore, it´s dead

I am not agree with this. The users have not why to adjust to your forum, you must ajust to your users. The users are the boss. A good template must be readable for the most comon explorers...

The users used a lot ie:
Visit that use Internet Explorer in my forum Visits: 49.292

7.0 22.364 45,37%

6.0 13.577 27,54%

This meaning that 13.577 visits use ie6. If you use this template, you lost 13.577.

May be ie6 is a crap, but is very used by the users yet.

portalpez wrote: [View Post]

May be ie6 is a crap, but is very used by the users yet.

Yes! and I would suggest that most of those users don't have licensed Operating Systems and are NOT entitled to anything other than IE6 when it comes to Windows.

And if that IS the case - then it's time for them to realise that antiquated software is no longer supported, and why should programmers cater for it. ?

Anyone with licensed versions of Windows would automatically upgrade to later versions of IE, so what you are suggesting only indicates one should also cater for pirated Operating Systems.

Time to move on my friend, those days are dead and gone.. :lcop:

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Maybe "Pirated Operating Systems" is a bit strong - Let's just call it Windows Operating Systems that DON'T validate, and are therefore not entitled to be upgraded. :shock:

portalpez wrote: [View Post]

If you use this template, you lost 13.577.

Even MG and Icy Phoenix v.1.3.0.* no longer support IE6 - If you feel you need to use this template for the benefit of your Members / Visitors - You could always try to downgrade it to IE6 yourself. Else advise them to use FF or Opera etc. But then again - They would probably have to find an "Old" version of those too. :roll: