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mort
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Re: Problem With IP2.0 In PHP 5.4?
I wasn't talking about who contributes to GIT, I was pointing out that those with the expertise are seldom around the place to answer questions on BUG reports and fixes.
It's a little difficult for users to get stuff from GIT when the version they are using hasn't been updated step by step or the fixes for the latest Public Download haven't been added or changed in the download.
In most cases I would have to guess that the files in GIT at the moment are probably NOT even compatible with the Public Download - But I do stand to be corrected.
And about the ONLY time we hear from those in the know - It's usually MG - And that's why I said "We" = "MG".
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Dimo
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Re: Problem With IP2.0 In PHP 5.4?
____________ * URL: www.laforo.org
* Versión de phpBB Icy Phoenix: 1.3.0.53b and 2.0.0.86
* Parches Instalados: No
* Modificaciones Realizadas: No
* Es una actualización o instalación limpia: Instalación limpia
* Formular tu pregunta: formulada en el post
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#17 Sat 25 Jan, 2014 21:37 |
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mort
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Re: Problem With IP2.0 In PHP 5.4?
Yeah! - Dimo for Admiral of Icy Phoenix!
But you're right - People who want to contribute should ask MG to consider making them a moderator or staff member.
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#18 Sun 26 Jan, 2014 00:01 |
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Dimo
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Re: Problem With IP2.0 In PHP 5.4?
____________ * URL: www.laforo.org
* Versión de phpBB Icy Phoenix: 1.3.0.53b and 2.0.0.86
* Parches Instalados: No
* Modificaciones Realizadas: No
* Es una actualización o instalación limpia: Instalación limpia
* Formular tu pregunta: formulada en el post
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#19 Sun 26 Jan, 2014 14:22 |
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mort
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Re: Problem With IP2.0 In PHP 5.4?
Didn't even know that I was on there - Maybe it has something to do with the number of "Helpful" posts one has to make before one gets added?
Dunno?
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#20 Sun 26 Jan, 2014 22:44 |
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Dimo
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Re: Problem With IP2.0 In PHP 5.4?
____________ * URL: www.laforo.org
* Versión de phpBB Icy Phoenix: 1.3.0.53b and 2.0.0.86
* Parches Instalados: No
* Modificaciones Realizadas: No
* Es una actualización o instalación limpia: Instalación limpia
* Formular tu pregunta: formulada en el post
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Mighty Gorgon
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Re: Problem With IP2.0 In PHP 5.4?
Ha ha ha guys, you made me laugh.
I'll try to catch up with some of the questions in this topic:
- I should have fixed a while ago PHP 5.5 issues, because I'm using it on my local testing environment with PHP 5.5.3, but I can't remember all things I fixed.
- Many users lost their interest into Icy Phoenix. The problem is well known. The codebase is huge and currently there are a lot of awesome pieces of software (WordPress, XenForo, just to mention two of them). Users are lazy and they normally don't want to waste time to understand large codebase... I can understand, I have few time as well. The only solution is moving everything extra as a plugin and just keep forum and CMS. This would help a lot. Plus, in the meantime, HTML 5 is the new standard... as the responsive templates are... all that IP is still lacking. If I don't recode the template system to use HTML 5, new users are not going to join for sure. No matters that IP is stable and works fine... users want new technologies... HTML 5, CSS 3, jQuery, AJAX, Responsive templates and so on. Plus Social Connectors.
- Regarding contributors, I have to thank a lot of users who helped me a lot with their contributions. Usually I require some solid and constant help to add new names to credits. Recently the two coders who helped a lot are Gabriel and Informpro. Not to mention the countless hours spent by Steffen or Limun or Andrea75 or the beloved Joshua ( ). Even Mort on his own spent a lot of time on helping the project (just to mention few who are still active in one way or another). But there are a lot of other users (hpl, Bicet, difus, ThE Kuka, Janu, KugeLSichA, DrWho, brandsrus, spydie, MoreTeaVicar... and many others you can find in credits) who used to help and I remember all of them individually for their contribution... mention one and I will tell instantly what they did for the project.
- Regarding international support, in the past I used to have individual language sections, but then few people wanted to start their own International Support website, and I think it was a good idea at that time. Of course now a day isn't a nice idea anymore and maybe it's better if we move everything here. The problem is just that I can't help people in other language than Italian and English. And also I should ask people to shut the localized support which isn't a good idea... plus, remember that users tend to go Off Topics in a multilanguage platform... they use to post in other language even in forums where only English should be used... I think is not adviceable. Better from time to time try to face individual requests by allowing few users to use their own lang.
I think it's all for now...
____________ Luca
SEARCH is the quickest way to get support.
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Informpro
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Re: Problem With IP2.0 In PHP 5.4?
Quote: No matters that IP is stable and works fine... users want new technologies... HTML 5, CSS 3, jQuery, AJAX, Responsive templates and so on. Plus Social Connectors.
That's something I can work
Add something like bower to manage deps, refactor code, add auto minification etc.
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#23 Wed 29 Jan, 2014 20:48 |
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mort
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Re: Problem With IP2.0 In PHP 5.4?
@informpro,
That's why it's nice to see you hanging around here - You have a stake in the future of coding, where others lke myself have decided that it's time to put the brakes on and just stick to what we think we know?
Lopalong MoreTeaVicar
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#24 Thu 30 Jan, 2014 02:17 |
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Mighty Gorgon
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Re: Problem With IP2.0 In PHP 5.4?
That's something I can work
Add something like bower to manage deps, refactor code, add auto minification etc.
I don't think adding Bower can help at current stage, unless you are going to start from scratch.
You already experienced how tough it is to refactor Icy Phoenix code if we don't remove first some complex integrations like Album and rewrite those packages as plugins.
Anyway Bower is a new technology for developers, not for final users (who may actually find it to be a pain).
____________ Luca
SEARCH is the quickest way to get support.
Icy Phoenix ColorizeIt - CustomIcy - HON
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#25 Fri 31 Jan, 2014 11:06 |
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Informpro
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Re: Problem With IP2.0 In PHP 5.4?
Well, bower would be mainly for minification etc. If we want to add cool features without inline scripts and without a thousand of <script src>s, a build + min. tool would be nice to have.
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