Icy Phoenix
English Chit Chat - Discussion Limun's Demo project
Limun [ Wed 13 Mar, 2013 05:19 ]
Post subject: Discussion Limun's Demo project
Ok, I've made a few personal changes here, but the layout should be the same with what's in the zip.
http://bitzagames.com/forum/index.php?s=9
are you talking about 2columns / 3columns ?
Joshua203 [ Wed 13 Mar, 2013 10:18 ]
Post subject: Re: Style Release Vista Pink For IP 2*
Since you got it set at 2 collumns, Mort can only be talking about 2 collumns.
BTW Limun.. you seem to have the same problem in style demo's that MG had when he was preparing the same as you are doing now:
if you click the stylechoice twice in forum, the change style bar at the top is multiplying! ... meaning someone can receive 2, 3, 4 etc style choice top bars (the gray one).
EDIT:
btw .. IMHO a style demo should really only show a default view, but ofcourse that is only my opinion and it's your choice :wink:
Limun [ Wed 13 Mar, 2013 10:27 ]
Post subject: Re: Style Release Vista Pink For IP 2*
Since you got it set at 2 collumns, Mort can only be talking about 2 collumns.
BTW Limun.. you seem to have the same problem in style demo's that MG had when he was preparing the same as you are doing now:
if you click the stylechoice twice in forum, the change style bar at the top is multiplying! ... meaning someone can receive 2, 3, 4 etc style choice top bars (the gray one).
i saw that :(
i will see if MG can solve it
btw when you chose style on second stylechoice the first one dissapier
EDIT:
btw .. IMHO a style demo should really only show a default view, but ofcourse that is only my opinion and it's your choice :wink:
i will think about, maybe you both are right :wink:
Joshua203 [ Wed 13 Mar, 2013 10:37 ]
Post subject: Re: Style Release Vista Pink For IP 2*
i will see if MG can solve it
I hardly ever see MG curse but for this phpbb idea error... well let's say he was not pleased, so it could be not an easy fix :mryellow:
About the stuff not being default...
The way it looks now, it's really like mcdonalds ads... show a huge sandwich in ads looking delicious but when you buy it it looks a whole lot different :shock:
Limun [ Wed 13 Mar, 2013 10:58 ]
Post subject: Re: Style Release Vista Pink For IP 2*
i will see if MG can solve it
I hardly ever see MG curse but for this phpbb idea error... well let's say he was not pleased, so it could be not an easy fix :mryellow:
About the stuff not being default...
The way it looks now, it's really like mcdonalds ads... show a huge sandwich in ads looking delicious but when you buy it it looks a whole lot different :shock:
i decided ..is it now ok?
is it now default?
Joshua203 [ Wed 13 Mar, 2013 11:36 ]
Post subject: Re: Style Release Vista Pink For IP 2*
Don't worry about being off topic, I'll split this when I feel a bit better.
Just tell me:
- where to split
- a new tpic name
- to which forum
About it being default, wise decision :wink:
No it's not default yet, as far as I can see..now only the portal is ( not the forum page ).
Limun [ Wed 13 Mar, 2013 11:44 ]
Post subject: Re: Style Release Vista Pink For IP 2*
Don't worry about being off topic, I'll split this when I feel a bit better.
Just tell me:
- where to split
- a new tpic name
- to which forum
About it being default, wise decision :wink:
No it's not default yet, as far as I can see..now only the portal is ( not the forum page ).
i think from here affter morts post
http://www.icyphoenix.com/viewtopic...&start=0#p58563
name - hmmm i have no idea :(
forum - maybe chit chat
Joshua203 [ Wed 13 Mar, 2013 13:36 ]
Post subject: Re: Discussion Limun's Demo project
Done as you requested :wink:
Limun [ Wed 13 Mar, 2013 14:55 ]
Post subject: Re: Discussion Limun's Demo Project
Done as you requested :wink:
thanks
why you think its not default home page?
isnt it?
mort [ Wed 13 Mar, 2013 15:03 ]
Post subject: Re: Discussion Limun's Demo Project
In my horrible humble opinion a demo should be thumbnails with the */index.php?s=* and a link to the download.
No one cares what's in the demo stats - and how many times it's been downloaded - they can find that out from the download thread.
As usual phpBB overcooks the issue with a huge list of themes and no representation. I want an "Orange" theme - How many links would I have to look at to only find out that there isn't one available?
:(
I'm sure a "DropDown Div" menu would be a better option than what's currently the only option? :P
G'Night! :mricy:
Joshua203 [ Wed 13 Mar, 2013 15:54 ]
Post subject: Re: Discussion Limun's Demo Project
why you think its not default home page?
isnt it?
Home is default, forum page is not ...because it has a side bar, default forum pages have no side bar usually.
I personally like active demostyles like phpbb shows them in demo's, so for once I don't agree with Mort :lol:
People ca n see an active forum.. see quotes, announcements, stickies etc etc.... pretty helpfull when choosing your favourite style if you ask me.
Limun [ Wed 13 Mar, 2013 16:31 ]
Post subject: Re: Discussion Limun's Demo Project
why you think its not default home page?
isnt it?
Home is default, forum page is not ...because it has a side bar, default forum pages have no side bar usually.
I personally like active demostyles like phpbb shows them in demo's, so for once I don't agree with Mort :lol:
People ca n see an active forum.. see quotes, announcements, stickies etc etc.... pretty helpfull when choosing your favourite style if you ask me.
u r right
thanks
check PM
Joshua203 [ Wed 13 Mar, 2013 18:27 ]
Post subject: Re: Discussion Limun's Demo project
Looks fixed to me now Limun, great job...very fast :wink:
mort [ Thu 14 Mar, 2013 08:45 ]
Post subject: Re: Discussion Limun's Demo Project
I personally like active demostyles like phpbb shows them in demo's, so for once I don't agree with Mort :lol:
People can see an active forum.. see quotes, announcements, stickies etc etc.... pretty helpful when choosing your favourite style if you ask me.
I think one of us misunderstood the intention of what I meant. Or one of us wrote it badly! :D
This is what I meant, and it's able to take any markup or php that one can throw at it and it's auto re-sizable.
I don't know exactly what its limits are with opening stuff on the same page with iframes or whatever, but I'm sure that any problems like that could be overcome.
:P
http://members.iinet.net.au/~cranky65/demo/
Joshua203 [ Thu 14 Mar, 2013 09:03 ]
Post subject: Re: Discussion Limun's Demo project
:oops: Maybe I misunderstood you Mort, I thought you meant a few stills would be enough as a demo of each style because you only mentioned thumbs.
I like the way phpbb does it but it just seems to have a problem multiplying the style picker bar at the top when a new style is choosen in the front forum, that is really a downside (MG was really annoyed when he bumped into this problem and so what he created was never publicly announced or linked).
I guess he and Limun both used iframes but I'm not sure.
The link you posted is a nice idea however one needs to use the back button alot or open in new tabs to view more than one style?
A style picker bar at the topis a nice way to switch easilly between styles in one and the same tab imho.
mort [ Thu 14 Mar, 2013 09:29 ]
Post subject: Re: Discussion Limun's Demo Project
That demo I posted is only a rough, and very rough example of what I meant. ;)
Sure it would need to be "above" the demo forum and probably use iframes also - to keep the whole thing together as one unit so there would be no back-button or new-tabs etc.
Anyway, it was only a rough alternative that I may play with one day - If I ever get to that One Day! :mricy:
Joshua203 [ Thu 14 Mar, 2013 10:21 ]
Post subject: Re: Discussion Limun's Demo project
I know you need alittle peace and quiet but it could be a nice discussion between Limun and you, or even just help him analize the multiplying style switch bar.
I'm not trying to push you into a burnout ..don't get me wrong but he may need some help and appreciate it alot. :oops:
EDIT: Sorry this does not seem to be needed Mort :oops:
btw I know it''s taking a long time but I'm still making progess on your tranlation file (in baby steps but making progress), I do have some questions once it's finnished though.
I haven't forgotten :wink:
mort [ Thu 14 Mar, 2013 12:21 ]
Post subject: Re: Discussion Limun's Demo Project
I don't know why because this thing appears to be in discussion underground and as far as I can see the thing loads three iframes and if you close one you close them all?
This
blah/styles_mg.php
blah/styles_fk.php
blah/styles.u.php
Needs to be just one url with a mode that changes the name of the inclusion of the array - which would be in three names.
array_mg.php and so on.
So we end up with something like:
blah/styles.php&mode=styles_mg etc.
So roughly translated you would have something like this but use "mode" and not isset.
if(isset(styles_mg))
{include('styles_array_mg.' . PHP_EXT);}
if(isset(styles_fk))
{include('styles_array_fk.' . PHP_EXT);}
if(isset(styles_u))
{include('styles_array_u.' . PHP_EXT);}
Or
$var = 'styles_mg';
// This will evaluate to TRUE so the text will be printed.
if (isset($var))
{include('styles_array_mg.' . PHP_EXT);}
But you can only use one styles.php file even if one has to create a "style_index.php" just to parse the mode to it. ?
I think! :lol:
OT: Josh the language file is the last thing I want you to concern yourself about - I'm sure you have other things to do that are more important. *Cough* ;)
Joshua203 [ Thu 14 Mar, 2013 14:59 ]
Post subject: Re: Discussion Limun's Demo project
I think Limun would rather look at this at a later stage, as you mentioned somewhere before he's faster than water ...maybe his shadow is catching up with him? :mryellow:
We all know how confused we get when we do so much at the same time.
Whenever I promise something I like to deliver, the sh*tty thing is just that I'm trying to do this on a tablet with docking station and no wifi.
For example.. Installing PSPad means jugggling with files via usb stick and I'm still trying to get used to this tablet and its keyboard.
Having a laptop in my lap is really too much for more than 10 mminutes... so even this message I'm typing means I'm in an unconfertable position... sideways.
On my main machine it would probably already be finnished :oops:
I have enough time to kill, so don't worry about the other thingie ...neither do I (most of the time :lol: )
mort [ Thu 14 Mar, 2013 23:23 ]
Post subject: Re: Discussion Limun's Demo Project
The problem with what Limun is trying to do is that the styles demo was never meant to be loaded more than once. And WHY? he feels he needs to separate the styles into groups is beyond me, when the thing itself denotes who the author is for each style.
I played with this array and it doesn't switch because it needs to be in a separate file like styles_index.php for it to even have a chance to work?
$mode_array = array(
'mg',
'fk',
'u'
);
$mode = (!empty($_GET['mode']) ? $_GET['mode'] : (!empty($_POST['mode']) ? $_POST['mode'] : false));
$mode = (in_array($mode, $mode_array) ? $mode : 'mg');
switch($mode)
{
case 'mg':
$page_title = 'MG Styles';
include('styles_array_mg.' . PHP_EXT);
break;
case 'fk':
$page_title = 'FK Styles';
include('styles_array_fk.' . PHP_EXT);
break;
case 'u':
$page_title = 'User Styles';
include('styles_array_user.' . PHP_EXT);
break;
default:
$page_title = 'Icy Styles';
}
But it would need to call styles_mg.php which in turn would call style_array_mg.php - and you are back to where you started from, because you can't separate the iframe from the "styles_*.php" files without re-programming the whole shebang.
And for what logical reason other than to simply group who did what?
:(
Correction:
Yes one could possibly separate the iframe and include it at the bottom of "styles_index.php" so that the "mode's" would only call the data that the iframe uses - - Or copy all three pages to one page with only one iframe at the bottom and create functions out of the three pages and then use case mg() - case fk() functions to call the relevant script or something like that.
:lol:
And this is not something I intend to try or be involved in because I would take the easy way out and create a MG "demo" forum, an FK "demo" forum and a User "demo" forum. :P
OT: I use a laptop with a wireless keyboard and mouse - maybe you should try that. ;)
Joshua203 [ Fri 15 Mar, 2013 13:36 ]
Post subject: Re: Discussion Limun's Demo project
As far as I can see what Limun is doing is similar to what I've seen (and posted demo posts in) in MG's unfinnished project for a demo forum, so I'm almost sure there is a good reason for the choice.
Personally I don't understand why the normal style picker from the portal is not used as a custom bbcode or whatever else used as a method, in my mind this would be easier and more direct.. but I might be mistaking because I'm only pretending to be a good coder :lol:
Anyway.. I'm sure if the time is right and help is needed we'll see some posts about it appear :wink:
could be worth a try this wireless KB and mouse idea, however I would still get a stiff neck looking sideways for a long time I think :lol: I'll think about it and maybe even give it a try because I do have this wireless stuff unused in a closet :oops:
mort [ Sat 16 Mar, 2013 00:38 ]
Post subject: Re: Discussion Limun's Demo Project
But I might be mistaking because I'm only pretending to be a good coder :lol:
So am I, because I just learn as I go along. :P