You flatter me, Mort, that you think I went with something as tame as a chainsaw. ;-D I've just been completely lazy and sloppy in trying out the new Icy to see what things do in it. (Remember, I was using the 2008 version until last night

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Yes, I have been clearing out a lot, but all modifications I made were either in deselecting something to be visible or in toying with a different color/image in the .gif files for the theme. Nothing that would have affected the Headers & Banners code. And I have not even began to mess with meta stuff. Thank you, though, for the code checks.

It's greatly appreciated. (Benefit of dormant site is that I am fearless in messing with it because I know traffic fell off long ago.)
I think Spydie is right and I need to just completely dump the site and restart from scratch. I already did a full dump on another site that crackers messed up, so will go try a full new install there without trying to install over the old version like I did at the problem site.
Informpro - If it's not even in the latest Dev version then I won't worry about it :-D, I have been toying with the Ads & Sponsors a bit and like what I see of that feature so far. The only reason I was wanting to mess with Headers & Banners is because I know where in there to drop code to get an ad to show up after the first post in a forum and by the website title. I found the Ads & Sponsors position to get ads into the list of forum topics, but not yet one for after the first post within a discussion.
I'll go rebuild second website from ground up and see if that clears up the Headers & Banners issue.
Thank you all for the help.
