Icy Phoenix :: View topic - Creating Simple Transparent Tabs In IP

Limun [ Mon 15 Dec, 2008 00:19 ]
Post subject: Creating Simple Transparent Tabs In IP

Easy way

This was harder than i think

First i want made some explenations :
Tabs - i tryed to create tabs with <sripts> .js or similar thing ..but affter few hours i leaved all and stared to create only with simple html and css.. (almost all MG alredy made)
reason i chosed this is simple : sometimes this tabs with .js or <scripts> are a bit slow , also here on mg_winter sometimes i get "not rounded" tabs or i see different colors ... thats all lets start

now see this two pics :
First one is on icyphoenix style without CMS ADV ....

and second is on different template (Chaotic site) with CMS ADV

as you can see tabs are on banner image ...and thrue tabs you can see background .... and they are rounded

download attachment (there are only few pics inside) unpack it and upload in your templatesmg_themesimagesice overtiere existing pics if ask

open your templatesmg_themesstyle_ice.css
Note:this change will cheange your nav menu in header but dont worry

find

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replace it with

Spoiler: [ Show ]

find

Spoiler: [ Show ]

replace with

Spoiler: [ Show ]

open your templatesmg_themesoverall_header.tpl

find

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delete it

find

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affter add

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<td colspan="3" >
<div id="menu" style= "margin-top:126px" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<ul id="nav">
<li class="activetab"><a href="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{U_PORTAL}"><img src="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{IMG_MENU_SEP}" alt="" /> {L_HOME}</a></li>
<li class="activetab"><a href="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{U_INDEX}"><img src="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{IMG_MENU_SEP}" alt="" /> {L_INDEX}</a></li>

<li class="activetab"><a href="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{U_SEARCH_NEW}"><img src="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{IMG_MENU_SEP}" alt="" /> {L_NEW2}</a></li>



<li class="activetab"><a href="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{U_PROFILE}"><img src="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{IMG_MENU_SEP}" alt="" /> {L_PROFILE}</a></li>

<li class="activetab"><a href="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{U_SEARCH}"><img src="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{IMG_MENU_SEP}" alt="" /> {L_SEARCH}</a></li>
<li class="activetab"><a href="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{U_FAQ}"><img src="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{IMG_MENU_SEP}" alt="" /> {L_FAQ}</a></li>

<li class="activetab"><a href="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{U_REGISTER}"><img src="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{IMG_MENU_SEP}" alt="" /> {L_REGISTER}</a></li>

<li class="activetab"><a href="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{U_LOGIN_LOGOUT}"><img src="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{IMG_MENU_SEP}" alt="" /> {L_LOGIN_LOGOUT2}</a></li>
</ul>
</div>
</td>

thats all

backup before you start your style_ice.css and overall_header.tpl

with > CMS ADV

open templatesmg_themesoverall_header.tpl

find

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replace with

Spoiler: [ Show ]

open templatesmg_themesnav_header.tpl

delete

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i think its all

for ca_aphrodite

upload images from attachment in templatesca_aphroditeimages

open templatesca_aphroditestyle_blue.css or other green ,cyan
find

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replace with

Spoiler: [ Show ]

find (this are last lines in .css)

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affter add

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open open templatesca_aphroditeoverall_header.tpl
find

Spoiler: [ Show ]

replace with

Spoiler: [ Show ]

find

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affter add

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<div id="menu" style= "margin-top:0px" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<ul id="nav">
<li class="activetab"><a href="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{U_PORTAL}"><img src="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{IMG_MENU_SEP}" alt="" /> {L_HOME}</a></li>
<li class="activetab"><a href="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{U_INDEX}"><img src="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{IMG_MENU_SEP}" alt="" /> {L_INDEX}</a></li>

<li class="activetab"><a href="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{U_SEARCH_NEW}"><img src="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{IMG_MENU_SEP}" alt="" /> {L_NEW2}</a></li>



<li class="activetab"><a href="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{U_PROFILE}"><img src="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{IMG_MENU_SEP}" alt="" /> {L_CPL_NAV}</a></li>

<li class="activetab"><a href="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{U_SEARCH}"><img src="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{IMG_MENU_SEP}" alt="" /> {L_SEARCH}</a></li>
<li class="activetab"><a href="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{U_FAQ}"><img src="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{IMG_MENU_SEP}" alt="" /> {L_FAQ}</a></li>

<li class="activetab"><a href="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{U_REGISTER}"><img src="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{IMG_MENU_SEP}" alt="" /> {L_REGISTER}</a></li>

<li class="activetab"><a href="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{U_LOGIN_LOGOUT}"><img src="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{IMG_MENU_SEP}" alt="" /> {L_LOGIN_LOGOUT2}</a></li>
</ul>
</div>

find

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delete it !!!

Note: if problem occours with this add (streching or oversized) create smaler tabs or place tabs to the top of header
PS. i hope i added all changes , gearhead will confirm it

off topic wrote:
!! now i need some help!!
if you look in last spoiler you will see in red margin-top:126px , this is how i placed tabs on bottom of header ., so any better idea is welcome

DEMO: http://www.macommunity.net

Thanks

Chaotic [ Mon 15 Dec, 2008 02:22 ]
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Awesome work yet again Limun!

gearhead [ Mon 15 Dec, 2008 07:14 ]
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Very good work! I really like it, and will incorporate it into a few of my themes. Very, very nice.

One should note that you can alter the colors to match that of your theme......

As far as answering your questions, that would be a hover issue, I can play with it and let you know, once I get the code onto my test forum!

The great .css editor, Limun!

Lopalong [ Tue 16 Dec, 2008 12:17 ]
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If it's any use to you, These MUST be in this order for whatever purpose you use them for.

a:link {color: #FF0000} /* unvisited link */
a:visited {color: #00FF00} /* visited link */
a:hover {color: #FF00FF} /* mouse over link */
a:active {color: #0000FF} /* selected link */

These below are useless markup and have no effect, as you don't have anything to qualify them in the .css changes you propose.

<li id="home
<li id="forum
<li id="new_posts

etc,
etc,
etc.

All you've done is add images to the a: anchors in much the same way as the "Sparkle" .css works in the background.

What you could do is examine phpBB3 markup and .css and see how it's done, because it's not quite as simple as what you propose - particularly if you are trying to achieve the same results as phpBB3 nav bar using three images that don't actually "Lock Up" but change with each mouse gesture.

DWho [ Tue 16 Dec, 2008 22:02 ]
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Looks like you done what set out to do Limun nice job...

Limun [ Tue 16 Dec, 2008 22:52 ]
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Updated and solved problem with active tabs

~~still didnt updated on demo site because owner is sleep all day~~

UPDATED

Chaotic [ Tue 16 Dec, 2008 23:23 ]
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Looking good!

Lopalong [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 13:03 ]
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I have a question:

Are you trying to get the "Yellow" tabs to show you where you are - rather than where you've been?

Because "Visited" images will keep the tabs yellow until you clear your browser history.

TheSteffen [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 18:13 ]
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Looks nice... thanks for sharing it.

gearhead [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 18:29 ]
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Note to Limun:

Unless I did something wrong, the tab png images only work in IE.

I use Firefox more, but just wanted to check.

Also, look at MG Autumn. There are also some changes needed in the common.css and grey.css.

Limun [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 20:01 ]
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gearhead wrote: [View Post]
Note to Limun:

Unless I did something wrong, the tab png images only work in IE.

I use Firefox more, but just wanted to check.

Also, look at MG Autumn. There are also some changes needed in the common.css and grey.css.

for me they are working in ff and opera

firefox

opera

also Chaotic use Firefox and for him are working...so must be that you did something wrong ...or is something with your bronswer

gearhead [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 20:08 ]
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Ok, I'll try again.

See what MG Autumn looks like with tabs in both browsers.

thx.

Chaotic [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 20:37 ]
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Are you talking about MG Autumn or MG Winter?

MG Winter has the tabs.

gearhead [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 21:17 ]
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No, the old template style "MG Autumn". A lot of people don't have that one installed.

No matter. There is a problem with more than one template due to a spacing issue.

It probably only occurs if you have your monitor resolution set to: 1027x768

There is just a slight clearance problem in the header height. I can increase it which would be easier than reducing the size of the tab pngs.

Here's what I'm getting. I can see a interference overall height problem, and my login logout tab set wraps around to the bottom......

LOGGED IN:

LOGGED OUT:

See, when logged in, the above mentioned tab "wraps" around to the bottom!

There's nothing wrong with the code changes you provided, Limun, just a small sizing issue!

Chaotic [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 21:21 ]
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I see now!

I think if I ever ran into that problem, I'd remove the Search and FAQ tabs. It's what I did on my site because they aren't really cool enough to be tabs. I just left the links to Search and FAQ in my menu.

You gotta be cool to be a tab!

Limun [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 21:31 ]
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gearhead wrote: [View Post]
No, the old template style "MG Autumn". A lot of people don't have that one installed.

No matter. There is a problem with more than one template due to a spacing issue.

It probably only occurs if you have your monitor resolution set to: 1027x768

There is just a slight clearance problem in the header height. I can increase it which would be easier than reducing the size of the tab pngs.

Here's what I'm getting. I can see a interference overall height problem, and my login logout tab set wraps around to the bottom......

LOGGED IN:

LOGGED OUT:

See, when logged in, the above mentioned tab "wraps" around to the bottom!

There's nothing wrong with the code changes you provided, Limun, just a small sizing issue!

also what you can do is that you strech pictures a little
made them with less width

second options is that you can remove menu_sep from tabs (a little image before text)

gearhead [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 21:38 ]
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Maybe there's another way. See how the overall height drops just slightly when logged in?

You have to look close. I need to increase the height, but keep it that height when logged in.

You can go to my test site and log in and see what I'm talking about.

I tried to decrease the size of the tabs, but then the .css needs changing to match.

If you change one thing it might be easy, is the height, but also keep the height from dropping when logging in.

note: look at other MG templates, without images, they are square tabs, but size is perfect!

Limun [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 21:45 ]
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gearhead wrote: [View Post]
Maybe there's another way. See how the overall height drops just slightly when logged in?

You have to look close. I need to increase the height, but keep it that height when logged in.

You can go to my test site and log in and see what I'm talking about.

I tried to decrease the size of the tabs, but then the .css needs changing to match.

If you change one thing it might be easy, is the height, but also keep the height from dropping when logging in.

note: look at other MG templates, without images, they are square tabs, but size is perfect!

did you saw this ?

Spoiler: [ Show ]

so if you create picture of size 85px ... just you need to change in spoiler above where is "red"

gearhead [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 21:50 ]
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Ok, that would probably work. It's going to have to be smaller than 90 pix.

Do me a favor, and look at the xmas styles on my test site, they look perfect with no images, and each .css could be edited to change the link and hover colors!

Nice!

If size didn't drop, I would then say that the whole thing is now perfect! I'm not sure how to make height stay the same in .css

Limun [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 21:56 ]
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gearhead wrote: [View Post]
Ok, that would probably work. It's going to have to be smaller than 90 pix.

Do me a favor, and look at the xmas styles on my test site, they look perfect with no images, and each .css could be edited to change the link and hover colors!

Nice!

man :
1. do you see in MG-s tabs a litlle pic before text ..on this site? (menu_sep ... look the difference )

2. there are pics for tabs you use in your images folder ...check it
3. you didnt coded good ... check again my post ( on your site is not working "active link"
4. if you want tabs like in this site you have 2 options :
- use <script> type - there is link somewhere in Chaotic post in VIP
- create rounded tabs from this existing

gearhead [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 21:58 ]
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Quote:

man :
1. do you see in MG-s tabs a litlle pic before text ..on this site? (menu_sep ... look the difference )
2. there are pics for tabs you use in your images folder ...check it
3. you didnt coded good ... check again my post ( on your site is not working "active link"
4. if you want tabs like in this site you have 2 options :
- use <script> type - there is link somewhere in Chaotic post in VIP
- create rounded tabs from this existing

Ok, I'll check my coding, thanks for the help. Good work!

Limun [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 21:59 ]
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gearhead wrote: [View Post]
Quote:

man :
1. do you see in MG-s tabs a litlle pic before text ..on this site? (menu_sep ... look the difference )
2. there are pics for tabs you use in your images folder ...check it
3. you didnt coded good ... check again my post ( on your site is not working "active link"
4. if you want tabs like in this site you have 2 options :
- use <script> type - there is link somewhere in Chaotic post in VIP
- create rounded tabs from this existing

Ok, I'll check my coding, thanks for the help. Good work!

and why are u hidding

i like to see your username

gearhead [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 22:05 ]
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Oh, I logged out, and checked MG's tabs. No problems. Then I just logged back in to check again.

I was logged in for a long time......

Anyway, The size fixed everything........I CODED RIGHT!!

Great job, now go look, it's perfect, great design. I'm using it on all my MG themes now!!!!

You are the "bomb" with .css...........only convince down under.

heeee...........

P.S. oops, I had hide checked, sorry, I don't want to hide, must have been on for a long time!

Limun [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 22:11 ]
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gearhead wrote: [View Post]
........I CODED RIGHT!!

well

this is your code

Spoiler: [ Show ]

and this is in my post

Spoiler: [ Show ]

see the difference ?
anyway , its not important if you like it

gearhead [ Thu 18 Dec, 2008 22:21 ]
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Limun wrote: [View Post]
gearhead wrote: [View Post]
........I CODED RIGHT!!

well

this is your code

Spoiler: [ Show ]
Spoiler: [ Hide ]
<li><a href="http://www.thegtsaga.net/gearhead/index.php"><img src="http://www.thegtsaga.net/gearhead/templates/mg_themes/images/xmas_dark/menu_sep.png" alt="" /> Home</a></li>

and this is in my post

Spoiler: [ Show ]
Spoiler: [ Hide ]
<li class="activetab"><a href="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{U_PORTAL}"><img src="{FULL_SITE_PATH}{IMG_MENU_SEP}" alt="" /> {L_HOME}</a></li>

see the difference ?
anyway , its not important if you like it

I just checked it. I have that line exactly. You have to be switched to see that line when on Icy Phoenix I guess. Or maybe I need to clear out my cache. I just opened my overall_header.tpl, and that's the coding on the first line......I still need to set the .css in all other templates, but will use matching or better suited pngs for all different templates!!

Thanks.

Limun [ Fri 19 Dec, 2008 14:37 ]
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Lopalong wrote: [View Post]
I have a question:

Are you trying to get the "Yellow" tabs to show you where you are - rather than where you've been?

Because "Visited" images will keep the tabs yellow until you clear your browser history.

no , ..yellow tabs are default ( like oranges on this site )
blue - mauseover
white - (active) where you are, based on forum.php , index.php search.php ecc.... ( i m working to set them also if you are example in view topic )
more white lighter - mauseover for for white

Chaotic [ Fri 19 Dec, 2008 14:59 ]
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Roger that!

Limun, I really don't think too much more, if anything, is needed to make this "modification" any better. It's already great as it is!

gearhead [ Fri 19 Dec, 2008 19:17 ]
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Limun wrote: [View Post]
Lopalong wrote: [View Post]
I have a question:

Are you trying to get the "Yellow" tabs to show you where you are - rather than where you've been?

Because "Visited" images will keep the tabs yellow until you clear your browser history.

no , ..yellow tabs are default ( like oranges on this site )
blue - mauseover
white - (active) where you are, based on forum.php , index.php search.php ecc.... ( i m working to set them also if you are example in view topic )
more white lighter - mauseover for for white

Oh, I didn't tell you but for each template, I'm using slightly different color tabs.....you know I had to change the size to 85 pix, so I am making slightly different colors for each template to blend in.

The stock colors you provided work perfectly with Icy Phoenix, MG Autumn (old).

Now, you have inspired me to create for mx (pearl) templates, and for Aphrodite!!!!

Great job.

update to Limun. On my test site, I did mess with the colors of the tabs, the tab color for the current page is wrong. I did that on purpose. I did have the right color scheme for my main site, however, and it works beautiful. The page you are on, is the active tab which is a light color to let you know the current page. Great work.

Limun [ Sat 20 Dec, 2008 11:55 ]
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hidden gearhead wrote: [View Post]

update to Limun. On my test site, I did mess with the colors of the tabs, the tab color for the current page is wrong. I did that on purpose. I did have the right color scheme for my main site, however, and it works beautiful. The page you are on, is the active tab which is a light color to let you know the current page. Great work.

yes...now i saw ...now its ok

nice choice of colours ...(only that u didnt made them transparent [opacity in photoshop] but its ok if you like

)

Lopalong [ Sun 21 Dec, 2008 11:48 ]
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gearhead wrote: [View Post]
You are the "bomb" with .css...........only convince down under.

Totally uncalled for.

This theme

http://www.macommunity.net/

Excluding the "new" Nav .css etc is a rip-off of this theme:

http://www.icythemes.com/ip/index.php?&s=47

Or this code here:

http://icythemes.com/ip/reducing-themes-to-80-vp136.html#p136

While it may be fine to use either for your own personal purpose, It's a different ball game when you create / distribute or advertise a theme based on someone else's work, and give credit only to yourself.

The crux of the matter is:

If you can't acknowledge your source, don't expect any help from those who effect the script changes in the first place.

Chaotic [ Sun 21 Dec, 2008 13:11 ]
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I don't think you are aiming that at the right person.

The theme I started out with was Icy Phoenix. I then reduced the size using code you shared on your site, but made a few little tweaks on my end. Limun was very instrumental in helping me to perfect the reducing to suit my needs. Limun created a ton of images for use on the site, not to mention a lot of work in .css.

I didn't really see: http://icythemes.com/ip/reducing-themes-to-80-vp136.html#p136 as a theme, but a cosmetic change to any theme available to use with Icy Phoenix. It's even listed as a cosmetic change and a work-in-progress on Icy Themes. It works with a lot of themes, but a few specific things have to be changed to get it to work correctly. I have a ton of different MODS on my site and reducing the theme created so many conflicts. Luckily Limun and I were able to iron out the mess.

Since this really isn't a theme or a theme available for download, I would be more than happy to make my footer:

Design by Mighty Gorgon & Limun
Theme reduced by Lopalong

What says the Thunder Down Under?

gearhead [ Sun 21 Dec, 2008 21:35 ]
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I actually think this issue is not related to the topic, which was transparent tabs.

While I see the point made by Lopalong, I feel that the last two replies don't have anything to do with Limun's adaptation of a transparent tab menu idea.

Not mean to make anyone mad, just looking at things logically.

Chaotic [ Sun 21 Dec, 2008 21:56 ]
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It did go quite a bit off-topic didn't it?

Getting back on topic...I love these transparent tabs!

gearhead [ Mon 22 Dec, 2008 00:36 ]
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Chaotic wrote: [View Post]
It did go quite a bit off-topic didn't it?

Getting back on topic...I love these transparent tabs!

Speaking of which, go check out my main site. I have tabs on all xmas themes, (color of tabs blend with template), and then check out my tab treatment (credit to Limun), on my test site on black pearl!

The pearl overall header is a "bl" template.

Chaotic [ Mon 22 Dec, 2008 03:10 ]
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They look great gearhead!

gearhead [ Wed 24 Dec, 2008 10:01 ]
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A note to Limun;

Hey, bud, I found out that you can have your "cake" (the original overall_header.tpl....old header link configuration), and the new transparent button style both at the same time, in the same theme folder! (on same theme different style).

(so far this only applies to the overall_header.bl.tpl)

Weeeeee..........just check out my new GT Matte theme, then switch back to like Blue Pearl.....you'll see what I mean:

http://www.portal.thegtsaga.net/main/index.php

I did find it very difficult to apply this neat .css trick to ca_aphrodite, though. That one I didn't finish.

Thanks, a million for all your help with these tabs!

Lopalong [ Wed 24 Dec, 2008 10:57 ]
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Firstly it's not "Off-Topic" because the screen shots and the URL in this thread contains the reason for the diversion.

Nowhere on icyphoenix.com or icythemes.com will you find a theme that doesn't credit the original author for their contribution where it is due.

The "Golden Rule" is: If one cannot put their own "copyright" on a theme, or make enough drastic changes to the original; then one didn't create it, all they've done is modify it using other people's examples or script.

Such is the case you will find at http://icythemes.com/ip-demo/ where themes are "modified by" rather than "style by"

Whether ice-80 is, or has not been released is a debatable point, as it states it's under test or evaluation for all of the template changes.

There have been no requests for it, neither has there been any feedback on the code changes as to it's suitability for any particular style.

And while I have no objection to individuals (Webmasters) using the "Cosmetic" changes for their own individual sites, I do object to the code being used by another "Theme" maker as indicated in your footer.

Please add: "based on ip-80 - Modified by Limun and Chaotic" or something similar in the footer, with a link back to icythemes.com, particularly if you ever want support - else don't use the script changes.

And any additional changes / feedback from the original script posted at icythemes.com would have been appreciated, and not something that was just taken and used as the base for something else without any consideration for supporting the original code in the first place.

Mighty Gorgon [ Wed 24 Dec, 2008 11:43 ]
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I would like just to mention that just a width adjustment (and I'm not telling this is the case... which is a different thing) couldn't be considered a "credit due" variation.

I don't know which changes have been applied to that template, but if it is just a WIDTH adjustment you cannot ask to be credited.

I repeat, I don't know if this is the specific case, we need to wait the "responsible author(s)" for clarifying that. And I think that if you want to be credited for that "Cosmetic Change" you will need to add a disclaimer in your topic, which I don't see in your topic. Or at least add an extra modification in overall_footer.tpl to add your credits.

P.S.: Please, just remember that I'm not "native" English, if you think that this post can be offensive in any way, I didn't mean to.

Lopalong [ Wed 24 Dec, 2008 13:09 ]
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No offence taken.

But it is more than just a simple width change, as it involves many .tpl files along with core (.php) files. Which has been used for the overall conversion to reduce the width of the theme involved; or any theme for that matter.

What I do find extremely annoying is that those changes were apparently used and further modified for a particular theme, WITHOUT those changes being made available in the spirit of which they were obtained.

Anyway, No offence meant, but I'm tired of feeding the monkey's.

I do this for a hobby for absolutely no return, and my ego is not big enough to continue doing something for others that need to be reminded that they have an obligation to release under the GPL, the changes they make to other peoples contributions.

icythemes.com is dying from the lack of any support or feedback where one would expect some reverse contribution, rather than vultures who just take whatever is available for their own purpose - And this is just another one of those occasions, and begs the question:

What the hell do I bother for?

Limun [ Wed 24 Dec, 2008 14:33 ]
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totaly off topic wrote:
Lopalong wrote: [View Post]
No offence taken.

But it is more than just a simple width change, as it involves many .tpl files along with core (.php) files. Which has been used for the overall conversion to reduce the width of the theme involved; or any theme for that matter.

What I do find extremely annoying is that those changes were apparently used and further modified for a particular theme, WITHOUT those changes being made available in the spirit of which they were obtained.

i wanted to ignore your posts (we haved some problems in past ,thats why)... but now its time that i tell something ...

1.I didnt used "your" wraper to that site , it was owner to made it i just helped him with some complications when he started to "resize"
2.I didnt asked him to put "Limun" in style author ,i told him to leave only MG (but now i dont want anymore that he remove Limun ) because exept "reducing" is all MG and my work ....
3.We are going to remove any of your "reduced" codes if owner want it (i alredy stared remove ,you can see it in overall header and footer)
4.I will use MG reduced codes from frozen if he permit me
5.So i m sorry to tell , but this is "off topic" my friend because this is my topic not owner topic of that site
6.the footer is now Design by Mighty Gorgon & Limun Theme reduced by Lopalong with link to icythemes

Lopalong wrote: [View Post]

icythemes.com is dying from the lack of any support or feedback where one would expect some reverse contribution, rather than vultures who just take whatever is available for their own purpose - And this is just another one of those occasions, and begs the question:

i was be proud and happy to be member on icythemes .. because i like that site very much
i tryed to contribute and help also but i dont know why you didnt want that (rainbow links...ecc) i had feeling that you didnt wanted me there ,so i asked you to delete my account
i cant forghet that you helped me and that i apriciate
i also dont want that icythemes die because is exelent site , and i always try to link icythemes if i see that somebody ask here for something answered on icythemes
i respect your modifications like "quick login" thats Lopalong's work if i need to explainit somewhere -like this one http://www.icyphoenix.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=4336#p32565 " eg: and affter add Lopalong's code" above spoiler

Best regards

Chaotic [ Wed 24 Dec, 2008 16:13 ]
Post subject: Re: Creating Simple Transparent Tabs In IP

You do show a certain tact...or elegance to your posts, Lopalong.

Tactful posts require tactful responses.

I don't believe we will be listing all the tweaks and enhancements we used as I'd like the site to look different than others. If user's want a style to look like ip-80, they can use the code as is posted on your site and it will work for them. There is nothing more boring than viewing other Icy Phoenix sites that use the same exact template and have the exact same graphics. It makes me want to rip my fingernails off one by one.

By the way, I added "based on ip-80 - Modified by Limun and Chaotic" to my footer.

In the future, please don't be so quick to snap on other people. No one growled at you or snarled back at you.

Regardless, I still love you and Merry Christmas!

Limun [ Thu 25 Dec, 2008 16:41 ]
Post subject: Re: Creating Simple Transparent Tabs In IP

topic updated for CMS ADV and ca_aphrodite

Chaotic [ Fri 26 Dec, 2008 00:45 ]
Post subject: Re: Creating Simple Transparent Tabs In IP

You truly are THE MAN! I bet there are other users that have the CMS ADV MOD and this will come in handy.

Great job!

Icy Phoenix

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