Icy Phoenix

I downloaded the beta earlier and have been looking over the code. Then I realized that I should probably start with the latest stable version for the new skins. I'm not familiar with the code changes from it to the beta yet so I will put the beta skins on hold until it hits a RC or final.
Now I have a few questions for the admins/devs/styles people who had a hand in this lol

1. I noticed you (whoever made icy phoenix template) used variables for your images for the blocks and boxes etc. This is new to me and I think a good idea. I'll have to learn this and where the variables are included from before I can start on a theme from that one though.

2. Does anyone have a version of subSilver with the mods and edits done up-to-date with the package? I was wanting this to create brand new skins from scratch. I also want this so I don't have to use anyone else's themes. As I do not know who made what yet I'm not familiar with the designer's or their preferences on usage of their themes.

3. If nobody kept an updated version following the growth of the package does anyone have a list of edit's done specificaly to template files since the first mod? I will add all the mods myself then release the package in case anyone else needs it. (Doubtful lol)

4. Was the (bug?) in eXtreme Styles cloning process addressed and if so has it been fixed? (Refering to the "always" incorrect path to phpbb) while attempting to clone a style?

I'm going to go ahead and do some PS images for the first skin while I figure all this out :mrblue:

I try to answer you regarding the first question, for the others wait for MG :mrgreen:

All the variables included in a tpl file refer to the php file them where assigned to. For example, the overall_header.tpl refers to the includes/page_header.php file. For an incomplete list (made for phpbb vanilla), see this kb http://www.phpbb.com/kb/article.php?article_id=198
Generally, the variables with the L_ are language variables, the ones with the U_ are link variables and the others are images or other types of text. For example, in the overall_header.tpl you will find the {L_HOME} variable, and in the page_header.php you will find this line



that means that the international words for "Home" are stored in the language file. And the same for the other variables.

Frost wrote: [View Post]

I downloaded the beta earlier and have been looking over the code. Then I realized that I should probably start with the latest stable version for the new skins. I'm not familiar with the code changes from it to the beta yet so I will put the beta skins on hold until it hits a RC or final.

Final templates should have few changes... most of the changes will be in PHP files... but I understand your point... you can choose the best way for you to go. :wink:

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1. I noticed you (whoever made icy phoenix template) used variables for your images for the blocks and boxes etc. This is new to me and I think a good idea. I'll have to learn this and where the variables are included from before I can start on a theme from that one though.

I have created this template... but when I have created it I had to respect some Aphrodite rules, because phpBB XS was based on Aphrodite and most of the templates things were hardcoded... it took me a while to take away most (unfortunately not all) hardcoded things from PHP files, and the best way to go was to integrate all images in the CFG of the theme... so creating a new theme based on the current template should be the best way to go. Almost all the images vars are defined in the CFG files and passed as template vars in page_header.php. If you need more help in understanding this, just ask... :wink:

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2. Does anyone have a version of subSilver with the mods and edits done up-to-date with the package? I was wanting this to create brand new skins from scratch. I also want this so I don't have to use anyone else's themes. As I do not know who made what yet I'm not familiar with the designer's or their preferences on usage of their themes.

No... you should use this template as a new "basic" template... I know that it is quite different from subSilver (almost all differences are in the CSS though), but we don't have subSilver for Icy Phoenix.

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3. If nobody kept an updated version following the growth of the package does anyone have a list of edit's done specificaly to template files since the first mod? I will add all the mods myself then release the package in case anyone else needs it. (Doubtful lol)

No subSilver... No templates changes as well... :sad:

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4. Was the (bug?) in eXtreme Styles cloning process addressed and if so has it been fixed? (Refering to the "always" incorrect path to phpbb) while attempting to clone a style?

I can't remember this one... you can install Icy Phoenix Beta and have a try... :wink:

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I'm going to go ahead and do some PS images for the first skin while I figure all this out :mrblue:

Great... we are looking forward to see the images!


Thank you in advance for your cooperation here. :wink:

Ok, so you're saying to use cs_aphrodite as the BASE template for the 058 version and then use icy phoenix as the BASE when its rc or final?

Frost wrote: [View Post]

4. Was the (bug?) in eXtreme Styles cloning process addressed and if so has it been fixed? (Refering to the "always" incorrect path to phpbb) while attempting to clone a style?

I can't remember this one... you can install Icy Phoenix Beta and have a try... :wink:

I did, I was talking about me not being able to clone the Icy Phoenix template because it always says "incorrect path to phpbb. No phpbb exists in this directory" or something like that (this is in beta)

In the 058 version it just sits there when I try to clone, then asks me if I want to download xs_???.php after about 4 or 5 minutes

I'll show screenshots later if this is a bug

I saw a post by someone earlier explaining how to "copy" a template but I can't find it now. It looked alot easier then it used to be because in the past you had to open all files and change the path etc...

I'll look again so I can get started lol

Frost wrote: [View Post]

Ok, so you're saying to use cs_aphrodite as the BASE template for the 058 version and then use icy phoenix as the BASE when its rc or final?

Frost wrote: [View Post]

4. Was the (bug?) in eXtreme Styles cloning process addressed and if so has it been fixed? (Refering to the "always" incorrect path to phpbb) while attempting to clone a style?

I can't remember this one... you can install Icy Phoenix Beta and have a try... :wink:

I did, I was talking about me not being able to clone the Icy Phoenix template because it always says "incorrect path to phpbb. No phpbb exists in this directory" or something like that (this is in beta)

In the 058 version it just sits there when I try to clone, then asks me if I want to download xs_???.php after about 4 or 5 minutes

I'll show screenshots later if this is a bug

I saw a post by someone earlier explaining how to "copy" a template but I can't find it now. It looked alot easier then it used to be because in the past you had to open all files and change the path etc...

I'll look again so I can get started lol

I'll try to check what you are saying... :roll:

In Icy Phoenix you should try just copying the template folder, rename the CFG with the new name and rename the vars in the theme_info.cfg with the name of the new template... almost everything else should work fine...

Notice that I've said ALMOST! :wink:

Some inclusion should still be adjusted, but you can quickly do it using a Search And Replace tool. :wink:

Yea, I've been going through and trying to find everything. I had to change quiet a bit so far. I aslo dumped all the extra color folders. So far I have the theme down to about 2 MBs. I'm still having a bit of a chore tracking down all the instances of templates/{style}/color and all image links that require your images to be inside "one" of the color folders. I tried just deleting all color includes in the cfg save one and even changed the name of that one I left and the corresponding folder but I guess it "litteraly" has to be a real color :lol:. Even when I changed that, all the images are still pulled from a original "blue" folder that isn't there lol.

So basically I just put this template on a diet and I'm tossing alot of extra weight, files, and images that aren't needed. I have decided to go ahead and make a "base" template out of this and save it as a plain jane template before making a template out of it myself and then offer it as a download for anyone else wanting to make a template without having to have all the extra colors/styles on a single theme. (If anyone is interested)

Anyways, I'm still after it when I get done with it I will post the "base" template here but I think I will need an expert to look it over and possibly some beta testers to make sure I didn't miss anything before I put it for download (don't want any errors on my conscience lol)

//By the way if anyone who was there when this template was made (ca_aphrodite) or is more familiar with it than I has or knows all the inclusions I need to find and get rid of to make this back down to a single template/style/color I would greatly appreciate it//

Also, while I am here I wanted to ask if anyone would be interested in me porting over my other theme to phpbbxs/icy phoenix before I delete it. You can see it here www.black-fusion.com/design/phpbb2
It isn't done yet (images and css tweaks to do) but I am going to be doing themes for here now, so I would have abbandoned it

It would be really great if you could create a basic theme to be then used for creating new ones! :wink:

I'm sure that everyone will really appreciate this effort. :wink:


Can you send me all your work for your template before deleting it? When I'm a bit tired usually I do Graphic things... so next time I may try to complete that template for Icy Phoenix. :wink:

Thank you very much.

I agree...

Thanks Frost

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Can you send me all your work for your template before deleting it? When I'm a bit tired usually I do Graphic things... so next time I may try to complete that template for Icy Phoenix.

Thank you very much.

Ok, I will package up all the psd, images, css, and code that I had so far and send you a link via pm
Do you also want the theme I already made for phpbb2.0.22? I forgot when I made the theme that I should have created the theme with a vanilla phpbb2, mine on that site has CH 2.4 or something

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I agree...

Thanks Frost

You're Welcome :mrblue:

Like I told MG, I like creating the graphics, and I can do 10 full themes a day, but coding them is what I hate lol

First of all thank you for the files of your template... :wink:

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Like I told MG, I like creating the graphics, and I can do 10 full themes a day, but coding them is what I hate lol

When the final release will be out... I'll help you with the code... if you create the images, no problem in FROZING them in the code... :wink:

Thanks!