Icy Phoenix

I don't think you are aiming that at the right person.

The theme I started out with was Icy Phoenix. I then reduced the size using code you shared on your site, but made a few little tweaks on my end. Limun was very instrumental in helping me to perfect the reducing to suit my needs. Limun created a ton of images for use on the site, not to mention a lot of work in .css.

I didn't really see: http://icythemes.com/ip/reducing-themes-to-80-vp136.html#p136 as a theme, but a cosmetic change to any theme available to use with Icy Phoenix. It's even listed as a cosmetic change and a work-in-progress on Icy Themes. It works with a lot of themes, but a few specific things have to be changed to get it to work correctly. I have a ton of different MODS on my site and reducing the theme created so many conflicts. Luckily Limun and I were able to iron out the mess.

Since this really isn't a theme or a theme available for download, I would be more than happy to make my footer:

Design by Mighty Gorgon & Limun
Theme reduced by Lopalong

What says the Thunder Down Under?

I actually think this issue is not related to the topic, which was transparent tabs.

While I see the point made by Lopalong, I feel that the last two replies don't have anything to do with Limun's adaptation of a transparent tab menu idea.

Not mean to make anyone mad, just looking at things logically.

It did go quite a bit off-topic didn't it?

Getting back on topic...I love these transparent tabs!

Chaotic wrote: [View Post]

It did go quite a bit off-topic didn't it?

Getting back on topic...I love these transparent tabs!

Speaking of which, go check out my main site. I have tabs on all xmas themes, (color of tabs blend with template), and then check out my tab treatment (credit to Limun), on my test site on black pearl!

The pearl overall header is a "bl" template.

They look great gearhead!

A note to Limun;

Hey, bud, I found out that you can have your "cake" (the original overall_header.tpl....old header link configuration), and the new transparent button style both at the same time, in the same theme folder! (on same theme different style).

(so far this only applies to the overall_header.bl.tpl)

Weeeeee..........just check out my new GT Matte theme, then switch back to like Blue Pearl.....you'll see what I mean:

http://www.portal.thegtsaga.net/main/index.php

I did find it very difficult to apply this neat .css trick to ca_aphrodite, though. That one I didn't finish.

Thanks, a million for all your help with these tabs!

Firstly it's not "Off-Topic" because the screen shots and the URL in this thread contains the reason for the diversion.

Nowhere on icyphoenix.com or icythemes.com will you find a theme that doesn't credit the original author for their contribution where it is due.

The "Golden Rule" is: If one cannot put their own "copyright" on a theme, or make enough drastic changes to the original; then one didn't create it, all they've done is modify it using other people's examples or script.

Such is the case you will find at http://icythemes.com/ip-demo/ where themes are "modified by" rather than "style by"

Whether ice-80 is, or has not been released is a debatable point, as it states it's under test or evaluation for all of the template changes.

There have been no requests for it, neither has there been any feedback on the code changes as to it's suitability for any particular style.

And while I have no objection to individuals (Webmasters) using the "Cosmetic" changes for their own individual sites, I do object to the code being used by another "Theme" maker as indicated in your footer.

Please add: "based on ip-80 - Modified by Limun and Chaotic" or something similar in the footer, with a link back to icythemes.com, particularly if you ever want support - else don't use the script changes.

And any additional changes / feedback from the original script posted at icythemes.com would have been appreciated, and not something that was just taken and used as the base for something else without any consideration for supporting the original code in the first place.

I would like just to mention that just a width adjustment (and I'm not telling this is the case... which is a different thing) couldn't be considered a "credit due" variation.

I don't know which changes have been applied to that template, but if it is just a WIDTH adjustment you cannot ask to be credited.

I repeat, I don't know if this is the specific case, we need to wait the "responsible author(s)" for clarifying that. And I think that if you want to be credited for that "Cosmetic Change" you will need to add a disclaimer in your topic, which I don't see in your topic. Or at least add an extra modification in overall_footer.tpl to add your credits.



P.S.: Please, just remember that I'm not "native" English, if you think that this post can be offensive in any way, I didn't mean to.

No offence taken.

But it is more than just a simple width change, as it involves many .tpl files along with core (.php) files. Which has been used for the overall conversion to reduce the width of the theme involved; or any theme for that matter.

What I do find extremely annoying is that those changes were apparently used and further modified for a particular theme, WITHOUT those changes being made available in the spirit of which they were obtained.

Anyway, No offence meant, but I'm tired of feeding the monkey's.

I do this for a hobby for absolutely no return, and my ego is not big enough to continue doing something for others that need to be reminded that they have an obligation to release under the GPL, the changes they make to other peoples contributions.

icythemes.com is dying from the lack of any support or feedback where one would expect some reverse contribution, rather than vultures who just take whatever is available for their own purpose - And this is just another one of those occasions, and begs the question:

What the hell do I bother for?

totaly off topic wrote: 

Lopalong wrote: [View Post]

No offence taken.

But it is more than just a simple width change, as it involves many .tpl files along with core (.php) files. Which has been used for the overall conversion to reduce the width of the theme involved; or any theme for that matter.

What I do find extremely annoying is that those changes were apparently used and further modified for a particular theme, WITHOUT those changes being made available in the spirit of which they were obtained.

i wanted to ignore your posts (we haved some problems in past ,thats why)... but now its time that i tell something ...

1.I didnt used "your" wraper to that site , it was owner to made it i just helped him with some complications when he started to "resize"
2.I didnt asked him to put "Limun" in style author ,i told him to leave only MG (but now i dont want anymore that he remove Limun ) because exept "reducing" is all MG and my work ....
3.We are going to remove any of your "reduced" codes if owner want it (i alredy stared remove ,you can see it in overall header and footer)
4.I will use MG reduced codes from frozen if he permit me
5.So i m sorry to tell , but this is "off topic" my friend because this is my topic not owner topic of that site
6.the footer is now Design by Mighty Gorgon & Limun Theme reduced by Lopalong with link to icythemes

Lopalong wrote: [View Post]

icythemes.com is dying from the lack of any support or feedback where one would expect some reverse contribution, rather than vultures who just take whatever is available for their own purpose - And this is just another one of those occasions, and begs the question:

i was be proud and happy to be member on icythemes .. because i like that site very much
i tryed to contribute and help also but i dont know why you didnt want that (rainbow links...ecc) i had feeling that you didnt wanted me there ,so i asked you to delete my account
i cant forghet that you helped me and that i apriciate
i also dont want that icythemes die because is exelent site , and i always try to link icythemes if i see that somebody ask here for something answered on icythemes
i respect your modifications like "quick login" thats Lopalong's work if i need to explainit somewhere -like this one http://www.icyphoenix.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=4336#p32565 " eg: and affter add Lopalong's code" above spoiler

Best regards

You do show a certain tact...or elegance to your posts, Lopalong.

Tactful posts require tactful responses.

I don't believe we will be listing all the tweaks and enhancements we used as I'd like the site to look different than others. If user's want a style to look like ip-80, they can use the code as is posted on your site and it will work for them. There is nothing more boring than viewing other Icy Phoenix sites that use the same exact template and have the exact same graphics. It makes me want to rip my fingernails off one by one.

By the way, I added "based on ip-80 - Modified by Limun and Chaotic" to my footer.

In the future, please don't be so quick to snap on other people. No one growled at you or snarled back at you.

Regardless, I still love you and Merry Christmas!

topic updated for CMS ADV and ca_aphrodite

You truly are THE MAN! I bet there are other users that have the CMS ADV MOD and this will come in handy.

Great job!