https://www.icyphoenix.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=7657
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batman
Sat 19 Feb, 2011 20:47

[solved] Cookie Problem
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Hi I just tried to config the cookie settings and now the album images wont show, do the setting look right?

 [img]http://www.icyphoenix.com/files/images/9166/19_02_2011_18_43_37_1298144895_612516.png[/img]

Sorted now, removed the http:// and inclided the slash on the Cookie name.

 [img]http://www.icyphoenix.com/files/images/9166/19_02_2011_19_00_40.png[/img]


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Joshua203
Sat 19 Feb, 2011 22:36

Re: (sorted) Cookie Problem
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is there any special reason you added www too batman???

EDIT:

I would also like to point out to you that this "Designed by KD Designs   © FBIA" is not a great idea at the bottom of your forum pages!!

It would mean you would receive no support anymore :roll:
It should say "Design by phpBB and subBlue 
                       Restyled by Mighty Gorgon  "


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batman
Sat 19 Feb, 2011 23:11

Re: (sorted) Cookie Problem
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Should I not include the www?

With all due respects to the copyright part, I have kept the "Powered by Icy Phoenix based on phpBB"

The original style may have been Restyled by Mighty Gorgon , but has since been restyled and re-designed by me.

I think the important part is I still have the "Powered by Icy Phoenix based on phpBB" as that still stands and so it should as they have done the hard graft.
If we want to start splitting hairs about the style then the original designer of subBlue should be in there.
I love Icy, but it is a little over promoted with the credits and branding, I have left the credits as I would with the original PHPBB as that's what matters as it still re-directs to the designer of the portal system.
it will be restyled even more by me in time, no offence meant :cry:


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Joshua203
Sat 19 Feb, 2011 23:17

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none taken, I will just refer you here:

http://www.icyphoenix.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2149


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batman
Sat 19 Feb, 2011 23:32

Re: (sorted) Cookie Problem
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That may be the case with the link however I have kept the important part of the copyrights.
The fact remains I have restyled the design since the original installation.

I'm not trying to take credit away. but lets please be realistic here as the original install setup does progress and gets edited and hugely modified by the site owners.


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Joshua203
Sun 20 Feb, 2011 08:04

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you are using the correct word there ... "Modify"
Even if you use phpbb with a template ...both get a credit at the same places so I don't understand where Icy is "over promoting" with links credits or branding.

Anyway don't say I did not give a fair warning if support stops

I've even viewed the design selling website wich made me scratch my head even more but I'm not going into a discussion about what's right and what's not with you.
Neither am I going into a discussion on how much was redesigned and how much is going to be redesigned.

Greetings,
..Joshua203


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Mighty Gorgon
Sun 20 Feb, 2011 09:39

Re: (sorted) Cookie Problem
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[quote user="batman" post="51671"]I love Icy, but it is a little over promoted with the credits and branding[/quote]
I'm curious to understand what are you referring to when you say that it is "over promoted".

As for the copyright issue on the "web engine", you have there Icy Phoenix and phpBB links and it is fine.

Regarding template, subBlue isn't mentionend in the original proSilver for phpBB 3, I have just added his name there since I was porting his template to another platform (it is released under GPL, so I can do that) I thought it was courtesy to add the name of the creator. My name is there because I altered the original template, and it's always good to add a note about that, because if you are a designer and someone edits your template in a way that you don't like, then you would prefer to have a line mentioning that it has been "EDITED BY" instead of making other user thinking that the template is like the original template. It's a bit complex to explain... but I think it is useful adding the extra line to avoid people being misleaded.

Anyway... I don't care about "Restyled by Mighty Gorgon", you can omit that for proSilver (since it isn't my own creation, I cannot take copyright), but you should ensure that you don't need to add subBlue credits.


It's always complex trying to speak about credits...


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batman
Sun 20 Feb, 2011 17:55

Re: (sorted) Cookie Problem
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Sorry for any confusion, when I said about over branding I meant there's a lot of stuff that has to be altered such as images etc. so to make the site unique, I don't really want to start getting in to issues. 

As for my design website, that's for web design I do web design and SEO work I'm not a coder and all is created from a blank page so don't use templates but design from the ground up.

The site which uses Icy is purely a free hobby site and the one I'm looking to convert over to Icy is one I have been running since 2004 which is the sister site to the other hobby site as the two cover 2 different specialist areas of interest.

I have no problem in altering the copy text to either restyled or modified and based on subBlue, its not really a big issue either way.
I have only just started using Icy so am mostly just sorting things out, but in time the site will be highly redesigned to suit the hobby its catering for.

The important thing is that I have left the important copyrights in place which I would always do, so if anybody wants to find out more about both of the respective systems i.e. Icy P and PHPBB then they can simply click on the links and find out all they need to know about them as they both have all the finer details on the credits for the whole systems.
The point I am trying to make though is I'm not trying to mislead people in to thinking its all my creation, I'm not that kind of person :(

EDIT now altered the copy-text and links.

 [img]http://www.icyphoenix.com/files/images/9166/20_02_2011_17_24_15.png[/img]


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Joshua203
Mon 21 Feb, 2011 08:11

Re: [solved] Cookie Problem
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[quote]Edited in 2 sec later:
[quote=batman]The point I am trying to make though is I'm not trying to mislead people in to thinking its all my creation, I'm not that kind of person [/quote]
Sorry I just don't have a cristal ball and believe me I know how tempting it usually is to many people to put their own name there after changing just one logo  :lol: 
I just warn people about this and the possible consequence when I notice it ( as nice as I can  :oops: )
As you can see MG is very easy going with this if you discuss it with him :wink: [/quote]

OK now all this has been cleared up back to the cookie question.

All this depends on how you configure things for your site like your domain settings (how you point it)

If you force people to go to www. then I guess it would not be too bad, but what's important to realize is that .. the more you write there the more "binding" it would become.

Don t forget that no matter if people type http:// or www. or even both ...they will just get there if they forget all those extra's anyway too (unless you configure it differently for some reason)

I hope this makes sense  (it's very early here :lol: )

Greetings,
...Laurel [img]http://www.icyphoenix.com/images/smiles/rotfl_01.gif[/img]


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mort
Mon 21 Feb, 2011 10:32

Re: [solved] Cookie Problem
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Hehehe! the old -  Who did, he did, they did and someone else did, and by the time I finish - where are am I going to get some credit for my bit.  :mryellow:

Change Design by Mighty Gorgon to "Original Layout by Might Gorgon". And that should cover your ass both ways. :P

As for www

That's only client side stuff for people who don't know how to type http://

It's only a tag to make it easier for those who are not web-savvy (Grandma's) to make their life easier. - And something else - Localhost as in XAMPP etc doesn't have a www folder, and if you ever went to do something with your site on your pc with a local server, www would be a hell of a problem as your browser wouldn't be able to relate to it.

Best NOT to use www. in anything that is server-side, and especially not inside script. - it's strictly reserved for html as used in posts etc.

[b]Cough![/b]

[b][i]Read the edit![/i][/b] http://www.icyphoenix.com/viewtopic.php?p=51572#p51572

That is all!  :P


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batman
Mon 21 Feb, 2011 14:54

Re: [solved] Cookie Problem
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Hya fellas I did try removing the www. but couldn't login again, so had to change back via phpmyadmin, I'm assuming the "dot" before the domain name has to remain? 

Thanks for your advice  8)


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spydie
Mon 21 Feb, 2011 16:34

Re: [solved] Cookie Problem
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did you try to clear cache after removing the www??


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batman
Mon 21 Feb, 2011 16:39

Re: [solved] Cookie Problem
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[quote user="spydie" post="51725"]did you try to clear cache after removing the www??[/quote]

Hya spydie, yeh that was the first thing I did, it just redirected me to the index page and wouldn't log me in.

everything seems to be working right with the www. included :?

Ill try removing the www but will leave the .

EDIT: no dont work removing the WWW part, as soon as I put it back via ip_config in phpmyadmin, it is fine again


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mort
Mon 21 Feb, 2011 20:47

Re: [solved] Cookie Problem
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With this question it's been stuck in my head that it was about the Domain Name setting.

I'm going to take a break....

leave the www. in your cookie or remove the whole string from Cookie Domain, either way should still be ok.


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Joshua203
Tue 22 Feb, 2011 09:24

Re: [solved] Cookie Problem
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I thought about domainname setting too (first thing that popped in mind)
You should use the same setting anywhere you can think of.

Also don't forget to clean the browser too if it all keeps failing, cookies can be painfully missleading sometimes when you change stuff  :roll:


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mort
Tue 22 Feb, 2011 11:34

Re: [solved] Cookie Problem
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Cookie Domains are best left empty (unless it's absolutely necessary) and let the browser cache the domain path.

If it is or there are sub-domains - make the cookie path ./ to include sub-domains also.

That's been my experience, with what can be a troublesome area.  :mryellow:


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batman
Tue 22 Feb, 2011 19:08

Re: [solved] Cookie Problem
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[quote user="mort" post="51744"]Cookie Domains are best left empty (unless it's absolutely necessary) and let the browser cache the domain path.

If it is or there are sub-domains - make the cookie path ./ to include sub-domains also.

That's been my experience, with what can be a troublesome area.  :mryellow:[/quote]

Hya Mort, I couldn't agree more there mate  8) 
The reason why I am configuring the current forum is that I will have 2 separate forums powered by IP. and some members will have an interest in both sites so don't want cookie conflicts due to visiting both sites.
The other site is still on integra whilst I learn IP but will in time convert it over to IP.
Ill probably leave the cookie settings as they are as default on the other site so I don't get any conflicts.
I probably wont get conflicts as they are both on different domain name, just being cautious as I don't fully understand how cookies work.

It is a bit confusing as I talk about 2 different sites in other threads, but is simple really.
The site I'm currently working on with all the question is a new site which I'm using as a testing ground with being new to IP, I also have a couple of admin on from my other site so they can also get to grips with the new ACP etc. so once I'm happy I can then convert the other site over to IP.
I have about 1500 members on there and 7 years worth of threads, so using the test site to learn on first :mryellow:


