https://www.icyphoenix.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=1950
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feelbeen
Wed 16 May, 2007 11:26

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I have Macintosh...

The problem is the text decoration of the Menu items: Main links, News, Info, User&Groups, RSS.

In Safari they are overlined.

In Camino they are simply underlined.

I'd like to use the second one view for all browsers... what have I to do?

 :?


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Zuker
Thu 17 May, 2007 00:35

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On this page also the error happend?
Mighty told me yesterday that he fix that thing


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feelbeen
Thu 17 May, 2007 14:13

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[quote user="Zuker" post="14159"]On this page also the error happend?
Mighty told me yesterday that he fix that thing[/quote]

I don't know what you mean saying "on this page"...

Also on www.icyphoenix.com I see the menu bar overlined... with Safari...

I don't know why... but I thought it was something about style configuration...

 :?


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tonyf12
Thu 17 May, 2007 17:15

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post some screenshots


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feelbeen
Thu 17 May, 2007 18:48

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[quote user="tonyf12" post="14193"]post some screenshots[/quote]

This is what I mean...

My visualizzation on Safari...

[img align=left]http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7356/safarimo9.png[/img]


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Zuker
Fri 18 May, 2007 02:04

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Thanks for reporting it. I thought that opera works liek safari ( i check safari compatibility with opera) but it isn't in this case:S


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feelbeen
Fri 18 May, 2007 02:06

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[quote user="Zuker" post="14207"]Thanks for reporting it. I thought that opera works liek safari ( i check safari compatibility with opera) but it isn't in this case:S[/quote]

no problem... so maybe is a style mystake???


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tonyf12
Fri 18 May, 2007 20:00

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[quote user="feelbeen" post="14209"][quote user="Zuker" post="14207"]Thanks for reporting it. I thought that opera works liek safari ( i check safari compatibility with opera) but it isn't in this case:S[/quote]

no problem... so maybe is a style mystake???[/quote]

I think underline is probably slightly misspelled in that theme's style sheet and most browsers recognise the mistake and correct it but Safari thinks overline is correct.


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feelbeen
Sat 19 May, 2007 12:27

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so I can't resolve this problem???


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Zuker
Sat 19 May, 2007 14:57

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it will be fixed on next release :D


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feelbeen
Sat 19 May, 2007 14:58

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[quote user="Zuker" post="14294"]it will be fixed on next release :D[/quote]

ok.. thank you!


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Mighty Gorgon
Sun 20 May, 2007 15:30

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I think you should use a Windows PC. :lol:

I'm kidding of course.

Unfortunately I cannot test your problem because I don't have a Mac and Safari. I hope that someone having this config may help us in fixing the CSS.

Currently I have removed the underlining.


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feelbeen
Sun 20 May, 2007 15:56

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[quote user="Mighty Gorgon" post="14392"]I think you should use a Windows PC. :lol:

I'm kidding of course.[/quote]

 :lol: 

[quote user="Mighty Gorgon" post="14392"]
Unfortunately I cannot test your problem because I don't have a Mac and Safari. I hope that someone having this config may help us in fixing the CSS.[/quote]
I try to give look to the .css but I'm starting with php and I can't do anything... first I thoght it was enough to change the text decoration of the dynamic menu from overline to underline... but then I saw that with another browser (like Camino) all works well...
I'll upgrade to final release.. so... that's all!

[quote user="Mighty Gorgon" post="14392"]
Currently I have removed the underlining.[/quote]
you are talking about the final release, isn't it?

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OT. Mio caro Luca non so perchè pensavo avessi Macintosh... forse perchè ti considero una mente "elevata"...
Colgo l'occasione per ringraziarti nuovamente (come ho fatto via mail) per il tuo lavoro... ti ammiro molto... Complimenti!


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Mighty Gorgon
Sun 20 May, 2007 20:10

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Yes I've removed the decoration in the final release, because it wasn't really needed there. But it's not the way to solve problems and we should understand why it is not working fine.

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Grazie per gli apprezzamenti. Uso Windows da sempre, ed onestamente mi sono sempre trovato bene... sia per lavoro che per passione purtroppo Win ha delle cose a cui non posso rinunciare... :wink:


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feelbeen
Sun 20 May, 2007 22:00

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[quote user="Mighty Gorgon" post="14437"]Yes I've removed the decoration in the final release, because it wasn't really needed there. But it's not the way to solve problems and we should understand why it is not working fine.
[/quote]

Yes... I know that... 

[quote user="Mighty Gorgon" post="14437"]
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Grazie per gli apprezzamenti. Uso Windows da sempre, ed onestamente mi sono sempre trovato bene... sia per lavoro che per passione purtroppo Win ha delle cose a cui non posso rinunciare... :wink:[/quote]

magari un giorno ne parleremo assieme... solo perchè non credo tu debba rinunciare a niente...


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feelbeen
Thu 24 May, 2007 12:07

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[quote user="Mighty Gorgon" post="14437"]Yes I've removed the decoration in the final release, because it wasn't really needed there. But it's not the way to solve problems and we should understand why it is not working fine.
[/quote]

I see the same decoration also with the final release (template aphrodite black-yellow)...

 :?


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Zuker
Thu 24 May, 2007 13:48

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[quote user="feelbeen" post="14901"][quote user="Mighty Gorgon" post="14437"]Yes I've removed the decoration in the final release, because it wasn't really needed there. But it's not the way to solve problems and we should understand why it is not working fine.
[/quote]

I see the same decoration also with the final release (template aphrodite black-yellow)...

 :?[/quote]

Also on Icy phoenix theme?


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feelbeen
Thu 24 May, 2007 14:03

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[quote user="Zuker" post="14905"]

Also on Icy phoenix theme?[/quote]

No! With Icy Phoenix theme it's all OK!  Remember this happen only with Safari...


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Mighty Gorgon
Fri 25 May, 2007 01:26

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[quote user="feelbeen" post="14907"][quote user="Zuker" post="14905"]

Also on Icy phoenix theme?[/quote]

No! With Icy Phoenix theme it's all OK!  Remember this happen only with Safari...[/quote]
Switch to Windows and FireFox... :P

I don't know why it is happening, maybe the vertical-alignement... anyway I'll remove the decoration in Aprhodite as well next time I'll open CSS... :wink:


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feelbeen
Fri 25 May, 2007 14:12

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[quote user="Mighty Gorgon" post="15000"]Switch to Windows and FireFox... :P [/quote]

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 

[quote user="Mighty Gorgon" post="15000"]
I don't know why it is happening, maybe the vertical-alignement... anyway I'll remove the decoration in Aprhodite as well next time I'll open CSS... :wink:[/quote]

Don't worry...no real problem... tqke it easy!


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tonyf12
Sun 27 May, 2007 15:45

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IE is never great for CSS especially IE for Mac


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feelbeen
Mon 11 Jun, 2007 17:20

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[quote user="feelbeen" post="14907"][quote user="Zuker" post="14905"]

Also on Icy phoenix theme?[/quote]

No! With Icy Phoenix theme it's all OK!  Remember this happen only with Safari...[/quote]

I don't know what's happened Mighty... the menu comes back overlined... this only on my web-site... on IcyPhoenix, both .com and .it, it appears underlined...

I'm so confused...

 :?


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moreteavicar
Mon 11 Jun, 2007 18:40

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[quote user="Mighty Gorgon" post="15000"]
Switch to Windows and FireFox... :P[/quote]Surely if he just uses firefox, it doesn't matter what OS he's running  :P


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moreteavicar
Mon 11 Jun, 2007 19:09

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[quote user="feelbeen" post="16422"][quote user="feelbeen" post="14907"][quote user="Zuker" post="14905"]

Also on Icy phoenix theme?[/quote]

No! With Icy Phoenix theme it's all OK!  Remember this happen only with Safari...[/quote]

I don't know what's happened Mighty... the menu comes back overlined... this only on my web-site... on IcyPhoenix, both .com and .it, it appears underlined...

I'm so confused...

 :?[/quote]
In the current distro of IP, the styles for Icy (style_ice.css), there is no underline for inactive/visited., but still has "text-decoration: underline" for some link attributes under the forumlink class (which nav_quick_links uses) - that is, for  attributes of hover/active. Funnily enough, in Firefox on Windows, I only see a change in colour, not also underline on mouse over - so even MG's recommended tools aren't doing the job properly! (or else this site - icypoenix.com, which I'm using for comparisons, isn't updated to the latest distro). 
So [b]feelbeen[/b], do you see the underline problem only on active menu items, or on all menu items, regardless of being open (active) or not?


The problem, from the image you posted,  looks to be the way that cell pics/cell spacing combined with javascript are handled in Safari. It almost looks like the text row is below the image row, whilst the underline is in a row where the text whould be - or in otherwords, as if there are two rows superimposed, one containing text, the other containing the underline, and the two are offset. As we know from nav_links, there is only really one row that is defined, and the menu item arranged between that and the <th> tags, along with javascript show hide functions. One wonders if the javascript show/hide lines were removed, whether the cell spacing would change, and the underline appear below the text...


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moreteavicar
Mon 11 Jun, 2007 19:20

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Indeed... on that final thought... can you disable javascript in your Safari browser? This should render all menu items exposed. It might change the way table cells are handled by the browser... and maybe underlines actually underlining :?:


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feelbeen
Tue 12 Jun, 2007 11:58

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[quote user="moreteavicar" post="16427"]Indeed... on that final thought... can you disable javascript in your Safari browser? This should render all menu items exposed. It might change the way table cells are handled by the browser... and maybe underlines actually underlining :?:[/quote]

thank you for your thought... but I think that disabling javascript in Safari could involve other changes in my IP... so...

I'd like to know why after my upgrade to final release the dinamic menu was OK - strictly underlined - and after a few, it comes back to its strange [b]over[/b]lined view...
what could I have done to have the menu changed?

 :?


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moreteavicar
Thu 14 Jun, 2007 20:24

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You only need to disable javascript temporarily to see any effects. You can enable it afterwards after checking. It will not effect IP on your server, only the way you view it on your own personal browser. Javascript is kept to a minimum, only used on cosmetic things, like the menu open close, unread posts pop down menu, and pop-up previews in the album. Indeed MG's philosophy in IP is not to use javascript on anything fundamental, like in the ACP. So really, no problems for you to do this.

If my suspicions are right, the change you have seen in viewing may have come about after you have visited parts of the menu.

Hence aslo... do you see the underline problem only on active menu items, or on all menu items, regardless of being open (active) or not (closed) - and also what happens when you just hover rather than click over a menu item?


